"Church" is not a biblical word . . .

[Neighbor]

24 minutes ago, Sower said:

How would you, Neighbor, instruct your grand child to never go out and play in the highway where cars are speeding by. Would your admonition be nice and gentle, watered down, considering their young  age, or would you want to instill the fear of them possibly being hit and smashed by a two ton speeding truck?

Were not talking about alcoholic beverages watered down for children to consume.
I talk to a child with childlike understandable words, but including the whole truth of the gospel. 

 

Hi, Well if we are to discuss  whether to be brutal in instructions to any child, or to be nice, gentle, and even watered down, I have been and hope if ever need comes up again that I will still be gentle nice and even kind.

I will also encourage that we both child and self  join in prayer for our own well being, and for that of others, while telling a child that drivers cannot always see them, so stay out of the roadways, period.

I would not have him or her join me with a scope shovel to  glove up and pick up the remains of what was once a living being  in order to  emphasize the point.

As to the word of God, I suggest any teachers that come at a young child with angry red faced dissertations in KJV only get nothing in response but extreme fear out of the effort. So yes even the Easy Read Bible is of greater benefit if a child gains awareness and or grows an interest, while a MacArthur study bible may bring nothing, but glazed over eyes and early nap time.

 

 

[Sower]

2 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, Well if we are to discuss  whether to be brutal in instructions to any child, or to be nice, gentle, and even watered down, I have been and hope if ever need comes up again that I will still be gentle nice and even kind.

    "Well if we are to discuss  whether to be brutal in instructions to any child"

           I think we need to end this conversation, brother.            

         

                 "Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
          but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them"

Thanks once again, Neighbor.
 

[Daniel Marsh]

So what???  It is an acceptable translation in modern English.

[Neighbor]

No matter what the place of gathering, and no matter what one calls it, I do love the corporate worship that occurs at such places when the Holy Spirit is felt the  atmosphere changes  physically and all are in awe of God as He is praised and love for one another is exhibited.

I call it church. The experience is church.

[PGS11]

Because the Gospels are written in Greek not English you would look for the Greek translation of "church"Greek translates very poorly to English.So the origin of the word would be a translation from Greek.

https://www.gotquestions.org/meaning-of-church.html

Edited September 25, 2024 by PGS11

[Vine Abider]

15 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said:

So what???  It is an acceptable translation in modern English.

Sure, and I use "church" all the time as it's the traditional word to use. But it's not a scripturally derived word its the etymology is fleshly.

[Marathoner]

I've always preferred "assembly" of saints myself. This covers every possible way we pair up or gather together.

[Daniel Marsh]

 

 

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One must use words within a culture when translating.

 

 

[In the Clouds]

On 9/18/2024 at 7:18 PM, Mr. M said:

Ecclesia is also not a particularly spiritual word either,

at least not without additional clarification,

and how it is translated is not very important to the Elect.

Matthew 22:14 For many are called (kletos),

but few are chosen (eklektos). The Elect, The Chosen 

Ecclesia, from kletos, is simply a public gathering,

to hear the announcements of a herald,

and could even become unlawful. (Acts 19)

The Chosen or The Elect is the Bedrock.

Matthew 24:31 And He will send His angels with a great sound

of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the

four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Romans 8:33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? 

It is God who justifies. 

Revelation 17:14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb

will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; 

and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”

Since we are "stirring things up" 

Imagine if the Body of Christ referred to itself as the Temple,

or House of God? As opposed to referring to a building as such!

[G3485] naos=temple

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, 

and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? 

for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, 

and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

House of God is my favorite!

[G3624] oikos=house-the root word for which we obtain:

steward, stewardship, dwelling place, indwelling (Spirit).

1 Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at

the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be

 the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; 

whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and 

the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, 

let us do good unto all, especially unto them who are

of the household of faith. (oikeios)

And the Grand Finale!

Ephesians 2:19-22 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Mr M, I so appreciate your discernment and sharing.  Blessings to you, ITC

[Vine Abider]

11 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said:

 

 

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One must use words within a culture when translating.

 

 

Did they not have a word that meant "assembly" in King James' time?