We need to love the murderer, rapist and mobster!

[hishandmaiden]

When we see a murderer, a rapist, or a mobster, our first reaction is to be disgusted by what these people did. It is natural. God created us with conscience, and it seemed that these people have no conscience or they would not be doing what they did. Our knowledge of what good and evil is made us despised these people who seemed delighted in only doing evil and not good. We think they deserve to go to jails and even to go the electric chairs!

What we often forget is that while our own sins may seem small in our eyes, they are large and big in God's eyes. We may think we are good people, but we are sinners, too, in God's eyes, just like the murderer, rapist, mobster we despise. 

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8 ESV

Before we know God or receive Jesus into our lives, we are just as hopeless as the mobster, rapist or murderer we despise. Yet, God does not think we deserve to go to eternal jail, hell but deserve to be blessed with Him in our eternal home, heaven. God gives us a second chance. Jesus died on the cross and paid the penalty for our sins. God did not give us what we deserve.

So, it is important that we do not look with disdain at the murderer, rapist or mobster but we look at them with compassion, instead. We also ought not to give to them what we think they deserve--jail or electric chair but our compassions. 

 "Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor." Proverbs 14:21 ESV

God loves these hopeless scums we despise. God do not want them to perish without knowing Him. If they repent and receive Jesus into their lives, even they can be saved. They can turn from a life of crime and live a righteous and blessed life, just like us. 

"Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord:

though your sins are like scarlet,

they shall be as white as snow;

though they are red like crimson,

they shall become like wool." Isaiah 1:18 ESV

Let us care for these rapists, murderers and mobsters like the way God wants us to. Let us look at them not at what they currently are, hopeless scums but see them the way God does--- His beloved sons and daughters, who Jesus came down to die for.

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10 ESV

No sin is too great in God's eyes. Every murderer, rapist and mobster needs to know Jesus. Let us not judge them for their sins, but pray fervently for their salvations, instead. Let us not think we are more righteous than them, but remember that we are sinners like they are, until God saved us.

"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matthew 7: 3 ESV

We need to look at these prodigal sons and daughters from a different perspective, not as scums that deserve to be judged for their sins but as precious human beings, made in God's image, who deserve to be reconciled with God!

[missmuffet]

That is one part of the Bible that confuses me. I read:

Romans 12:9

 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.

Psalms 101:3

I will set nothing ^[a]wicked before my eyes;
I hate the work of those who fall away;
It shall not cling to me.

We are suppose to love those who do evil things? So the person who would torture and beat me up I am suppose to love them? I can understand that we should pray for them but love them?

 

 

 

[enoob57]

Understanding the recompense of reward is key in this... We know our time here is short
1 Peter 1:24 (KJV)
[24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

now compare this time to that of eternity and that is what is at stake in this place...

We who have come to Jesus have the wonderful comfort of where we will be BUT for the others... One can only set down within himself/herself and reason in this reality... and then ask is there anything of this life 'worth' not aiding one to escape hell? Can there be anything at all...

We have Jesus' answer it was the Cross... we do not love their god, their place, their ways but we love their Deliverer...

[Marathoner]

17 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

We are suppose to love those who do evil things? So the person who would torture and beat me up I am suppose to love them? I can understand that we should pray for them but love them?

Yes. The Lord did the same for our sake. 

[missmuffet]

6 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Understanding the recompense of reward is key in this... We know our time here is short
1 Peter 1:24 (KJV)
[24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

now compare this time to that of eternity and that is what is at stake in this place...

We who have come to Jesus have the wonderful comfort of where we will be BUT for the others... One can only set down within himself/herself and reason in this reality... and then ask is there anything of this life 'worth' not aiding one to escape hell? Can there be anything at all...

We have Jesus' answer it was the Cross... we do not love their god, their place, their ways but we love their Deliverer...

Yes, we love God but we are suppose to love evil and those who commit evil? I still don't get it. The Bible tells us to love our enemies but they are not rapists,murderers and child killers.

[enoob57]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, we love God but we are suppose to love evil and those who commit evil? I still don't get it. The Bible tells us to love our enemies but they are not rapists,murderers and child killers.

Then you must understand we all are sinners... and God says this
James 2:10 (KJV)

[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

If you have ever told the littlest of lie to prevent hurting one's feelings you are guilty of all sin committed against Him... His Holiness does not conclude but is without end as all else about Him...

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Then you must understand we all are sinners... and God says this
James 2:10 (KJV)

[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

If you have ever told the littlest of lie to prevent hurting one's feelings you are guilty of all sin committed against Him... His Holiness does not conclude but is without end as all else about Him...

 

So someone who is stabbing me I tell them " Oh, I am a Christian and I love you so stab me again.I know that God loves the evil person but the Bible says that God hates evil. I am only human. I am not God.

[enoob57]

5 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

So someone who is stabbing me I tell them " Oh, I am a Christian and I love you so stab me again.I know that God loves the evil person but the Bible says that God hates evil. I am only human. I am not God.

No, I believe the response of Christians is "Father forgive them they know not what they do"... or "Fathere do not hold this sin to their charge"... It is why we must walk in s/Spirit and not in flesh.

Luke 23:34 (KJV)

[34] Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Acts 7:60 (KJV)

[60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

 

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

No, I believe the response of Christians is "Father forgive them they know not what they do"... or "Fathere do not hold this sin to their charge"... It is why we must walk in s/Spirit and not in flesh.

Luke 23:34 (KJV)

[34] Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Acts 7:60 (KJV)

[60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

 

 

 

I am sending you a PM.

[NConly]

1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

Then you must understand we all are sinners... and God says this
James 2:10 (KJV)

[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

If you have ever told the littlest of lie to prevent hurting one's feelings you are guilty of all sin committed against Him... His Holiness does not conclude but is without end as all else about Him...

 

You and I sure interpret that verse 10 different.

Edited September 22, 2024 by NConly
correct sentence