Opinions please.

[Gerioke]

If a woman is pretty and well built she doesnt have to show any skin to be completely attractive. All that skin tends to make her look cheap anyway.

That's my point exactly. With todays fashions, it's not hard for a person's imagination to go to forbidden places with fully clothed people. I use the terms person and people because women are just as prone to fantasy land as men.

Even at church it seems to be fashionable to be sexy. Isn't that supposed to be reserved for the spouse?

[abbershay]

The thing is in church we are always worried about offending people therefore the woman wear whatever they want.

[Bolts]

'Another thing that we have debated on at times is sex within marriage. I believe that it is perfectly ok to have sex (make love) with your partner within marriage, but my friend believes that you should have sex within marriage only for to procreate. Im curious as to your opinions on this but I would still like to hear others opinions on the lust debate. Thanks for taking the time to reply to this'.

Mark 10:6-9 tells us 'But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let no man separate.

But looking back over Genesis 1:28: God blessed them (man) and said to them be fruitful and increase in number, fill the earth and subdue it. rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.

The old testament leans very strongly toward being fruitful. Childlessness was very devastating.

In my opinion, family planning is the best way to go. As for your debate - it looks to me as though both sides are correct. There's nothing wrong with getting married and enjoying it.

[abbershay]

I dont believe you can truly love a woman without making love to her. Thats a fundamental thing.

[jmh137]

Take it from someone who has battled this topic forever (at least forever in my life). If you notice a woman walking down the street (I don't care what she looks like), turn the other way.

Joseph fled from Potiphar's wife naked, rather than to stay one second longer with the thought of going against God.

Be very careful (as in my own life); we start to rationalize and that is the beginning for the enemy to get a foothold on us.

About sex in marriage: God would have it be the blessing in every union. But that doesn't mean that it is. We have to consider the fallen state that we find ourselves in. Also, the terrible mistakes and sins we have gotten ourselves into in our time here, can often scar our souls so, that it takes a lifetime just to work some of it all out.

Why does everyone put such an emphasis on sex? Wouldn't be much more of a blessing not to be weighed down with such a load. Sometimes it seems such a small thing.

My son once said to me that he couldn't believe that the Lord could not have the same feelings as he has had toward women. I wanted to slap him, but tried to hold my peace.

That's why I love the Lord so much. He is not like me. .......jmh137

[abbershay]

sex and making love are 2 different things.

[Ovedya]

sex and making love are 2 different things.

Actually that's kind of a fallacy. Sex is sex. that is, the physical act is the same all the way around. There is however, a difference between mechanical function without emotion, and the act of intimate contact. We term the intimate contact "making love," but really it is not possible to make love at all - you either love someone or you do not. Human affection is fickle like that.

[Ovedya]

In simple terms lust is a piece of chocolate cake, and you are a 900 lb glutton with no restraint.

Unfortunately things appear to get a little blurry when you try to describe what desire is. It is possible to desire a mate out of love and not out of "animalistic craving." For example, in the Song of Songs Solomon is describing his desire for the woman he loves, and she in return describes her love for him. This kind of desire is not lust because it is motivated by love, and it's not impure.