Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.

[The Barbarian]

14 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

EVERYTHING in Scripture denies the lie.  Of course, you don't accept the authority of the Scriptures, so naturally you refuse to believe it.

You've now abandoned any attempt to reason and are again just insisting you are right despite the evidence.  Time for you to take a little time to calm yourself.

 

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

You've now abandoned any attempt to reason

Thus claims the person who says that a six day creation and a 13 billion year evolution are the same thing; nothing contradicted.

[The Barbarian]

14 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Thus claims the person who says that a six day creation and a 13 billion year evolution are the same thing; nothing contradicted.

Since the text itself tells us that it's not a literal six days, there's no contradiction at all between God's word and His creation.   

Why not just accept it as it is, without creationist additions?

 

[RV_Wizard]

9 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Since the text itself tells us that it's not a literal six days,

You keep repeating the same lie.  Not only does the text specifically say "The evening and the morning were the ___th day," it's so specific that you have to pretend those verses do not exist.  

Further, since God HIMSELF cited the six-day creation and made it part of His Ten Commandments, NO BIBLE BELIEVING PERSON can deny what God affirmed.

Evolution is a Satanic lie.  You are promoting false doctrine.

[The Barbarian]

14 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Evolution is a Satanic lie.

It's a directly observed natural phenomenon.   Why not just let God decide how it should be?    You are promoting false doctrine.    That distances you from Him.

 

[RV_Wizard]

6 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

It's a directly observed natural phenomenon.   Why not just let God decide how it should be?    You are promoting false doctrine.    That distances you from Him.

 

ADAPTATION is observed.  Nobody has ever observed evolution.  Dogs can adapt to be different breeds of dogs, but no dog ever gave birth to a horse.  Can you actually make a post without saying anything untrue?

Edited May 5 by RV_Wizard

[The Barbarian]

Evolution is a directly observed natural phenomenon. 

57 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

ADAPTATION is observed.

Just as you confuse Genesis with YEC, you've confused adaptation with evolution.   

Since you forgot again...

Evolution is a change in allele frequencies in a population.

Adaption is a response by an organism to environment.

Not all adaptation is evolution, and not all evolution is adaptation.

Getting a suntan is adaptation, but not evolution.

A new neutral mutation is evolution but not adaptation.

Tibetans evolving the EPAS1 mutation to survive at high altitudes is evolution and adaptation.

Write it down this time, so you don't forget again.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Nobody has ever observed evolution.

It's constantly observed.    No point in denial.  Would you like me to show you some more examples?

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Dogs can adapt to be different breeds of dogs,

That is evolution.    You can actually get a genetic breakdown of breed which is the change in allele frequencies.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

but no dog ever gave birth to a horse.

If it did, evolutionary theory would be in big trouble.   That's not what evolutionary theory says.    Can you actually make a post without saying anything untrue?

 

[The Barbarian]

They just don't want to call it "evolution." 

On 4/25/2025 at 12:41 PM, enoob57 said:

That's because it's not

Darwin defined it as "descent with modification."    Today, it's defined as "a change in allele frequencies in a population over time."    And that's what we observe.   AIG is trying to blur the lines between common descent and evolution.   

For the obvious reasons.   They've had to retreat to admitting the fact of speciation, of new species and genera (and sometimes families) evolving over time.   They just want to cancel the original meaning to maintain their position.