How can you know that you are saved? Part 1

[Your closest friendnt]

8 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

A new believer asks Jesus Christ into their heart and asks for repentance from their sins. Anyone can call themself a Christian. I did that for a long time. But I was not the born again believer that God wanted me to be. I finally committed myself to God 100%

and that is when I started to grow in Christ. Otherwise you are just a lukewarm believer. Christianity doesn't need to be a fear trip

unless you know that you are only a part time believer and that is not good. God may not even answer your prayers if that is the case.

This is not the truth Gospel. Not in the way you have put it. 

We are believers in Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ knows how to help anyone of his own to grow in him and He can do it on his own and without any one calling his children or his babies uncoplemantary titles and make them doubt their faith in him even their faith when they are asking him for help. 

I have not come for the righteous but for the sinners and those who have lost their way. 

Jesus went out of his way to find and heal the lepers and He went far away in the country to heal a man in great need living in the Cemetery. 

He found the sinner by the pool who was there waiting for 30 years and he dared to heal him on the Sabath Day.

And the one born blind. 

That's who the truth Jesus Christ is who also forgave their sins on his own without them asking him. 

That's who Jesus Christ is. He forgives us on his own and he does not hold our sins against out of his love and compassion. I did not say all the time. I do not preach a new Gospel. 

But he also helped and he still helps and heals unbelievers. 

Even in the case of the Roman Captain who was not Circumcised and he asked Jesus to heal his uncircumcised servant at that time before the Cross. The servant was not the one asking Jesus for his healing, the ROMAN Captain was and that was before the Cross. 

Edited November 17, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[BornAgain490]

12 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

A new believer asks Jesus Christ into their heart and asks for repentance from their sins.

Actually the Bible doesn't say that. 

 

13 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Christianity doesn't need to be a fear trip

Fear is our freind; it's a good thing.  When are getting ready to jump from a perfectly good aircraft for the very first time, your heart rate is going to be through the roof because of the fear going through you. In the midst of that fear, you have a hope in the parachute on your back and the training you went through. 

We're to work out own salvation with fear and trembling.  But when we're saved, we have our Blessed Hope Jesus Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide us. 

If you don't put the fear of God into the lost, and warn them that they are headed to a terrible place called hell if they don't turn from their wicked ways and trust in the Lord, why would they repent from their hedonistic lifestyles? 

28 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

unless you know that you are only a part time believer and that is not good.

Is the such a thing as a "part time believer"?

 

29 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

God may not even answer your prayers if that is the case.

God answers all the prayers of His faithful: sometimes He says "Yes", sometimes He says "No", sometimes He says "Not right now. Wait a while."  

[Your closest friendnt]

14 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Actually the Bible doesn't say that. 

 

Fear is our freind; it's a good thing.  When are getting ready to jump from a perfectly good aircraft for the very first time, your heart rate is going to be through the roof because of the fear going through you. In the midst of that fear, you have a hope in the parachute on your back and the training you went through. 

We're to work out own salvation with fear and trembling.  But when we're saved, we have our Blessed Hope Jesus Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide us. 

If you don't put the fear of God into the lost, and warn them that they are headed to a terrible place called hell if they don't turn from their wicked ways and trust in the Lord, why would they repent from their hedonistic lifestyles? 

Is the such a thing as a "part time believer"?

 

God answers all the prayers of His faithful: sometimes He says "Yes", sometimes He says "No", sometimes He says "Not right now. Wait a while."  

There are all kind of believers just nane them. Every one is in a different path and there many believers in Jesus Christ who do not know or learn the path of what Jesus is asking them. 

I have the privilege to have met many different kinds of believers in Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ said if they do not speak against us they are with us. 

[BornAgain490]

Just now, Your closest friendnt said:

There are all kind of believers just nane them. Every one is in a different path and there many believers in Jesus Christ who do not know or learn the path of what Jesus is asking them. 

I have the privilege to have met many different kinds of believers in Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ said if they do not speak against us they are with us. 

Amen. There are many that are faithful believers in Jesus Christ, and faithful believers in Jesus Christ are saved, which means that they are born again. 

Now, not every born again believer is going to think the same way about theological issues. Some think on more liberal terms, others more conservative. 

On rapture, some think pre trib, some think post trib, some think mid trib, some think prewrath.  On the millenium, some think premil, some think amil, some think postmil.  On the book of Revelation, some are preterist, some are historical, some are futurist, some are idealist. 

The debates on these and other issues have raged on for centuries. 

Either way, being born again does not mean there will be complete agreement on eschatology or other theological issues that are not essential Christian doctrines, but being born again means we are brothers and sisters in Christ, if they are indeed born again in Christ. 

[Your closest friendnt]

45 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Actually the Bible doesn't say that. 

 

Fear is our freind; it's a good thing.  When are getting ready to jump from a perfectly good aircraft for the very first time, your heart rate is going to be through the roof because of the fear going through you. In the midst of that fear, you have a hope in the parachute on your back and the training you went through. 

We're to work out own salvation with fear and trembling.  But when we're saved, we have our Blessed Hope Jesus Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide us. 

If you don't put the fear of God into the lost, and warn them that they are headed to a terrible place called hell if they don't turn from their wicked ways and trust in the Lord, why would they repent from their hedonistic lifestyles? 

Is the such a thing as a "part time believer"?

 

God answers all the prayers of His faithful: sometimes He says "Yes", sometimes He says "No", sometimes He says "Not right now. Wait a while."  

It is true that Paul DID NOT ASKED the believers in Jesus Christ those who had their sins forgiven in Jesus Christ and they are in Jesus Christ righteousness to work out their salvation from the pit of Hell. Paul preached righteousness the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ upon every one who believes in Jesus Christ and the moment he or she believes as they are as they are, any time as they are. 

To the liars he asked to work out their way from lying. To clean them selves from their lying ways to get the trust of others, their manipulating ways. To get their way through lying. 

Edited November 17, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

16 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Amen. There are many that are faithful believers in Jesus Christ, and faithful believers in Jesus Christ are saved, which means that they are born again. 

Now, not every born again believer is going to think the same way about theological issues. Some think on more liberal terms, others more conservative. 

On rapture, some think pre trib, some think post trib, some think mid trib, some think prewrath.  On the millenium, some think premil, some think amil, some think postmil.  On the book of Revelation, some are preterist, some are historical, some are futurist, some are idealist. 

The debates on these and other issues have raged on for centuries. 

Either way, being born again does not mean there will be complete agreement on eschatology or other theological issues that are not essential Christian doctrines, but being born again means we are brothers and sisters in Christ, if they are indeed born again in Christ. 

I do not understand your first paragraph because every one who believes in Jesus Christ is Saved in his name and is kept in Him in His POWER. 

The dedicated or faithful disciples and the servants of the Gospel each have their different place in Jesus Christ according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ but all are saved or all believers are saved from Hell. 

And everyone who understands continually needs to be saved without an end to it. Saved from misunderstanding will never ends. 

If you want to say saved from many things from this world it can be accepted but not saved from Hell because we are saved from Hell the moment we believe. 

And as a children from Christian parents we have always believed and as we grew up we continued to believe. 

And when we venture in the things of the world, we venture as believers. 

And as believers at some time we decided to be serious about what we believed and the growth skyrocket from there on.

[Sower]

1 hour ago, BornAgain490 said:

Actually the Bible doesn't say that.

Fear is our friend; it's a good thing.  

13 hours ago, Jean Beck said:

So, how can you know that you are saved?

As Tatwo has said, The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..

If you have the urgency to share the Good news with the lost, God's spirit is prompting, and is a very good indication of salvation..

"He that winneth souls is wise"...

BornAgain said;     "Fear is our friend; it's a good thing"  .......

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
     Fear God and keep His commandments" 
                 Ecclesiastes 12:13

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"
 

"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love"
 

 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

58 minutes ago, Sower said:

As Tatwo has said, The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..

If you have the urgency to share the Good news with the lost, God's spirit is prompting, and is a very good indication of salvation..

"He that winneth souls is wise"...

BornAgain said;     "Fear is our friend; it's a good thing"  .......

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
     Fear God and keep His commandments" 
                 Ecclesiastes 12:13

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"
 

"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love"
 

 

 

I have something to say the first paragraph that indeed that God's Spirit and our spirit are together witnessing to us that we are the children of God upon believing or anytime after that, that we are the children of God. 

But that doesn't mean that we are consious and ready to accept it at face value because there are other voices that want to take hold of our understanding. 

That say "if you do not do the walk and only confess Jesus Christ the time will come Jesus will tell you I never knew you depart from me. This is the unhealthy fear the deceiving fear some folks in the position of the servant try to put on the believers. Even the whispering about some things that Jesus Christ will refuse to take them to him. 

Because of many other requirements the put upon the believers besides the Grace of God in Jesus Christ. 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

As Tatwo has said, The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..

If you have the urgency to share the Good news with the lost, God's spirit is prompting, and is a very good indication of salvation..

"He that winneth souls is wise"...

BornAgain said;     "Fear is our friend; it's a good thing"  .......

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
     Fear God and keep His commandments" 
                 Ecclesiastes 12:13

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"
 

"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love"
 

 

 

I have something to say that many read the book that say: Fear God and keep his commandments and they refused to believe in Jesus Christ. 

Because the writer of this did not believe in Jesus Christ and he did not define God and he also did not define the Comandments of God. 

He left it upon everyone who reads this to figure this as they see it and as it is written by the intent of the writer. Faith in God and his commandments perhaps in the commandments the people had in their time the ten Comandments. As he does not mention anything about the Atonements in the Law of Moses. Definitely this is not about the Grace of God in Jesus Christ who forgives our disobedience as when this was told the people feared God because he punished them for their disobedience. 

No matter of how someone rolls the dice to follow his say it doesn't open the way to Heaven.

 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

As Tatwo has said, The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..

If you have the urgency to share the Good news with the lost, God's spirit is prompting, and is a very good indication of salvation..

"He that winneth souls is wise"...

BornAgain said;     "Fear is our friend; it's a good thing"  .......

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
     Fear God and keep His commandments" 
                 Ecclesiastes 12:13

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"
 

"Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love"
 

 

 

Anyone does not matter his emotional state he is invited to believe in Jesus Christ and have forgiveness of sins in his name. That means he is saved from eternal condemnation in the name of Jesus Christ and not his own no mater what.

This saying can be misused to promote love as the way to the Heavenly Father. Everything is by faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and servanthood is for earning the love of Jesus Christ in a very special way. According to his Grace towards him.

And we love him I mean Jesus Christ in many different ways and also by loving his children and his prospective children to be. The way Jesus asked Peter to love him and with our emotions that too is very important to speak good about him all the time. 

Edited November 17, 2024 by Your closest friendnt