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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Locust said:

are you saying you know the words to the song ?

IS THIS AN ACTUAL QUESTION TO ME? Where did this come from?

What I spoke of is this

Like 20:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36  Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37  And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38  But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39  All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40  There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41  There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42  So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 ¶  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

IS THIS AN ACTUAL QUESTION TO ME? Where did this come from?

What I spoke of is this

Like 20:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36  Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37  And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38  But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39  All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40  There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41  There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42  So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 ¶  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
 

yes the things the  disciples were told . they would be the first of the elect that would be taken up. the elect are a small special group chosen asked  to be judges when the millennial Kingdom is setup over the earth. luke 12:21“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.''

it stands to reason if there is a little flock ,then there must also be a much larger flock ' 

John 10:16

“And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd." 


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Posted (edited)

Ok Luther I think this has been a misunderstanding. When Mentioned the judges i was speaking of the Rabbinic ages of the Rabbis.

The tannaim were 10-22o CE....So those among this Era  would have been generations who Jesus was speaking about and to...when he spoke of the blood of all the prophets would be on this generation, or this generation shall not pass until these things be fufilled ETC. Which I think already happened to them. It wont be in the millenium IMO. .it is already done.

Rabbinical eras

Tannaim (Amoraic Hebrew: תנאים [tannɔʔim] "repeaters", "teachers", singular tanna תנא [tanˈnɔː], borrowed from Aramaic)[1] were the rabbinic sages whose views are recorded in the Mishnah,[2] from approximately 10–220 CE. The period of the Tannaim, also referred to as the Mishnaic period, lasted about 210 years. It came after the period of the Zugot "Pairs" and was immediately followed by the period of the Amoraim "Interpreters".[3]

 

The generation of the destruction

  • Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel
  • Rabban Yochanan ben Zakai
  • Rabbi Yehuda ben Baba

Between the destruction of the Temple and Bar Kokhba's revolt

  • Rabbi Yehoshua son of Hannania
  • Rabbi Eliezer ben Hurcanus
  • Rabban Gamaliel of Yavne
  • Rabbi Eleazar ben Arach
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Posted
8 hours ago, Locust said:

Utterly ridiculous

Shabbat shalom, @Locust.

Not when the Messiah Himself said it.


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Oh boy! I need to apologize to LUTHER, and LOCUST. I have been responding to you two as though you are one and the same poster. I am really sorry. All I looked at was a big L and the same color. I am so sorry for not being more careful.:thinking:

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Posted
4 hours ago, Locust said:

i get the feeling that you  expect the earth to be destroyed ?

Scripture teaches as you've been shown Jesus returns in fire and final judgment, yes 2 Peter 3:10-12 takes place in this earth being dissolved by fire (The End)


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Posted
6 hours ago, Locust said:

what does that have to do with '' RAISE them to life just so He can have them SLAIN before Him properly!?

Shabbat shalom, again, @Locust.

Think about it: Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus") the Messiah of God ("the Christ") gave us the parable in Luke 19 just as He was about to enter Jerusalem's territory for the last time before His death. He KNEW THAT!

It was the "scribes" (transcribers and copyists of the Law, Prophets, and other Writings) and the P'rushiym ("Separatists," "Pharisees") who were the ones MISLEADING the Jews of Jerusalem against Him. They would be "praying to God" NOT to have Him come and be their King!

How is the King Yeeshuwa` when He comes, going to deal with THEM, so long in the future as it has been since He ascended to His Father? How is He going to deal with the actual SOURCE of the problem adequately? They must BE THERE for Him to deal with the SOURCE! After the Resurrection of the children of Israel, ALL of those who were misled will be there, too. 

(This will be a whole chapter, for the whole thing is important to understand.)

Ezekiel 37:1-28 (KJV)

1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which [was] full of bones, 2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, [there were] very many in the open valley; and, lo, [they were] very dry. 3 And he said unto me,

"Son of man, can these bones live?"

And I answered,

"O Lord GOD, thou knowest."

4 Again he said unto me,

"Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them,

"'O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones;

"'"Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD."'"

7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but [there was] no breath in them.

9 Then said he unto me,

"Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind,

"'Thus saith the Lord GOD;

"'"Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live."'"

10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army (Hebrew: חַיִל = chayil = "company; population").

11 Then he said unto me,

"Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them,

"'Thus saith the Lord GOD;

"'"Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken [it], and performed [it]," saith the LORD.'"

15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16 "Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, 'For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions': then take another stick, and write upon it, 'For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions': 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 "And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying,

"'Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these?'

19 "Say unto them,

"'Thus saith the Lord GOD;

"'"Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand."'

20 "And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 "And say unto them,

"'Thus saith the Lord GOD;

"'"Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 "'"And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all (David included) shall have One Shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."'"

One may chafe at these words, if one doesn't want to see them in the Scriptures, but they are there! And, GOD said them! They SHALL be fulfilled LITERALLY and without fail!

Many call this a "vision," but NOWHERE in the text does it call it that! This will happen, just as written!


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Posted
2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Scripture teaches as you've been shown Jesus returns in fire and final judgment, yes 2 Peter 3:10-12 takes place in this earth being dissolved by fire (The End)

Shabbat shalom, @truth7t7.

Not so fast, there! What does one do with THESE verses?

Ecclesiastes 1:4 (KJV)

4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

Psalm 89:3-4 (KJV)

3 "I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, 4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations." Selah.

Psalm 89:20-37 (KJV)

20 "I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him: 21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him. 22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him. 23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him. 24 But my faithfulness and my mercy [shall be] with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted. 25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers. 26 He shall cry unto me, 'Thou [art] my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.' 27 Also I will make him [my] firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him. 29 His seed also will I make [to endure] for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. 30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; 31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; 32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. 33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. 34 MY COVENANT WILL I NOT BREAK, NOR ALTER THE THING THAT IS GONE OUT OF MY LIPS. 35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. 36 HIS SEED SHALL ENDURE FOR EVER, and HIS THRONE AS THE SUN BEFORE ME. 37 IT SHALL BE ESTABLISHED FOR EVER AS THE MOON, and [as] A FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN. Selah.

This is God's Word, too, y'know. How can one rectify this with your interpretation of 2Peter 3? For me, it was easy: 2 Peter 3 is about the SURFACE of the earth, and even more specifically, the LAND, rather than the planet! Also, the Greek words frequently translated as "the heavens shall pass away" in 2 Peter 3:10 is "παρελεύσονται," which is the future tense, deponent middle voice, indicative mood - 3rd person, plural form of "παρέρχομαι":

G3928 παρέρχομαι parérchomai, par-er'-khom-ahee; from G3844 and G2064; to come near or aside, i.e. to approach (arrive), go by (or away), (FIGURATIVELY) perish or neglect, (causative) avert:
—come (forth), go, pass (away, by, over), past, transgress.

So, the word could mean "shall approach; shall arrive; shall come near; shall come aside; shall go by; or shall go away." However, this is talking about "the heavens," which is the Greek plural words, οἱ οὐρανοὶ or "hoi ouranoi," which mean "the skies." Peter was a Jew and would think in Hebrew or Aramaic, a close cousin to Hebrew, and the word would be "הַשָּׁמַיִם" or "hashshaamayim" or "hashshaamayin" in Aramaic, both of which are DUAL words, speaking of the "daytime sky" and the "nighttime sky." It's talking about the ATMOSPHERE of this planet. So, this says "the skies shall pass by with a loud noise!" In fact, if one is familiar with the old sci-fi movie, "Alien," the catch-phrase for the movie was, "In space, no one can hear you scream!" One NEEDS an atmosphere to hear sound! Vibrations in a object cannot be transferred to a listener's ears without the molecules of air between the vibrating object and the ear. So, this verse isn't talking about the DESTRUCTION of the atmosphere, but rather the RUSHING BY of the atmosphere! Hot winds would be caused by whatever was burning up the works of men! I'm not saying that there won't be destruction, because it will be enough to dissolve or melt all the works of human beings. BUT, it won't be the entire destruction of the planet! And, it CERTAINLY won't be the destruction of the Universe, as some teach!

The conclusion for me is that "God doesn't LOSE His Creation!" Not to haSatan or to ANYONE! He WINS! He remakes the earth after the Fire, just as He remade the earth after the Flood! That's why a simple comparison between Genesis 1-2 and Revelation 21-22 can be helpful; God is REBUILDING His original Creation, and He doesn't need to go elsewhere to get it done!

I sincerely hope this will help you. And, don't think this is aimed right at you. I have pastor friends that are convinced that God is going to destroy the planet and take us all off to Heaven. But, IMO, that's a PESSIMISTIC VIEW of what God can do! Why should God destroy the whole uinverse on account of a relatively small amount of insignificant creatures on a mere speck of a planet in the vastness of space?


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Posted
5 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Why should God destroy the whole uinverse on account of a relatively small amount of insignificant creatures on a mere speck of a planet in the vastness of space?

The present heavens and earth will be dissolved by fire at the Lords return 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

God creates a completely New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


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Posted
1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

The present heavens and earth will be dissolved by fire at the Lords return 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

God creates a completely New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Shabbat shalom, @truth7t7.

First, I'll just say this: If you're hanging all your beliefs on these two passages of Scripture, then I hope that you're NOT in a position where you are teaching others this stuff. God can correct one person's theology simply enough; however, when the teaching has been pushed on others, THEN it becomes a matter where one is now RESPONSIBLE to God for what he or she is teaching!

Both of these passages are NOT saying what you're concluding that they are saying.

Let's start with the basics - definitions:

The word "heaven" is NOT equivalent to the "universe"; NOR is it talking about some place other called "God's Abode," with a capital "H," "Heaven."

Forget the English for a while; it's been generalized too much.

The Greek word for "heaven" is primarily "οὐρανός." We transliterate this word into a more English-looking representation, "ouranos." Now, this is singular in number, but we will also find the plural, especially when Jews have done the writing of the Scriptures we're reading, such as 2 Peter 3: "οὐρανοὶ." The only difference is changing the "-ός" singular, masculine ending into the plural, masculine ending, "-οὶ." Notice that the accent is still put upon this syllable. So, it is translated plural: "heavens." 

The definition of this Greek word (according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance's Greek dictionary) is ...

G3772 οὐρανός ouranós, oo-ran-os'; perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity):
—air, heaven(-ly), sky.

So, this entry has many parts: The first part, "G3772," means that it is the 3772nd entry in the Greek dictionary.
The second part, "οὐρανός," is the Greek word itself.
The third part, "ouranós," is the Greek word transliterated by their scheme of transliteration, which may be different in different dictionaries.
The fourth part, "oo-ran-os'," is the pronunciation of this word, showing the accent on the last syllable.
The fifth part, is the explanation of the word's origin (which may or may not be accurate).
The sixth part, "the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity)," is the actual definition of the word. The primary definition is first. This definition says that the meaning of the word might be EXTENDED to mean "heaven (as the abode of God)," although that is not its primary meaning. However, this "extension" can be influenced by the theology of the one making the "extension!" (Even dictionaries are works of human beings, and are therefore fallible.) This definition is also saying that the word may "imply" "happiness, power, or eternity," and again, this is at the whim of the interpreter. God may have meant for the word to be there literally! And, there may be a plae or two that "specially" used the word for "the Gospel (Christianity)," again in the understanding of the interpreter.
The final part of the entry, occurring after the colon-dash (:—), were the English words in the Authorized (King James) Version into which this Greek word were translated. This is written, "air, heaven(-ly), sky" and means that the words "air," "heaven," "heavenly," or "sky" may have been used to translate this ONE Greek word. THIS is where most of the confusion lies! Why so many words?
"Sky" includes anything we notice when we look "up."
"Air" is talking about the composite of gases that envelop our planet.
"Heaven" is vague and nebulous in meaning. We don't always KNOW what the author meant by that description; one must check it out as best as one can by its context. 

The bottom line in all this is that "ouranos" means "the sky." That's its first meaning and seldom (if ever) does it need to mean anything else. Look at how the Pharisees used it and then how Yeeshuwa` used it right afterwards:

Matthew 16:1-4 (KJV)

1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven (Greek: ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ = ek tou ouranou = "out of-the sky"). 2 He answered and said unto them,

"When it is evening, ye say, '[It will be] fair weather': for the sky (Greek: ὁ οὐρανός = ho ouranos = "the sky") is red. 3 And in the morning, '[It will be] foul weather to day': for the sky (Greek: ὁ οὐρανός = ho ouranos = "the sky") is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky (Greek: τοῦ οὐρανοῦ = tou ouranou = "of-the sky"); but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times? 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas."

And he left them, and departed.

Something I think is worthy of comment: Why were the SAME WORDS in Greek, "tou ouranou," translated as "from heaven" in verse 1 but "of the sky" in verse 3? Just something to think about.

They asked Him for a sign "from heaven," and He gave them WEATHER WISDOM! "A red sky at night is a sailor's delight; a red sky at morning, and sailors take warning!"

This is something the translator couldn't hide! And, it's how Yeeshuwa` used the word translated as "ouranos," which was probably the Aramaic (שְׁמַיִן = shmayin) or Hebrew equivalent (שָׁמַיִם = shaamayim)!

One more simpler definition, and this post is done:

The "earth" in 2 Peter 3:10 is the Greek word "γῆ" = gee = earth; land:

G1093 γῆ , ghay; contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):
—country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

(I use "ee" for the Greek letter eta, as opposed to the single "e" for an epsilon. That way, I don't have to hunt for a way to represent it with the long-e symbol they have in this Strong's dictionary definition.)

Thus, it was translated as "country," "earth," "earthly," "ground," "land," or "world," in the King James Version. Its primary meaning is "soil" or "DIRT!" (Reminds me of "Q" in Star Trek Next Generation who made fun of humans for calling their home, "planet DIRT!") "Soil" and even ROCKS are melted all the time in places, like Hawaii, which have active lava flows! Think about Pompeii! Peter's word was also the Hebrew (אֶרֶץ = 'erets) or Aramaic (אֲרַע = 'ara`) versions.

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