There Won't Be A Millennium On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)

[Anne2]

Indeed LOOK UP! to the heavenly things.

Heb 12:18 ¶  For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19  And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20  (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21  And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
22  But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, {written: or, enrolled }
24  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. {covenant: or, testament }
25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

And again..

25  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. {answereth to: or, is in the same rank with }
26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
 

Edited January 30 by Anne2

[farouk]

2 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Indeed LOOK UP! to the heavenly things.

Heb 12:18 ¶  For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19  And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20  (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21  And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
22  But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, {written: or, enrolled }
24  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. {covenant: or, testament }
25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

And again..

25  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. {answereth to: or, is in the same rank with }
26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
 

Hi @Anne2 Hebrews 12.2 indeed also exhorts to keep 'looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith'...........

[truth7t7]

16 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

If you knew scripture, you wouldn't have to ask me to walk you through it. 

I highly doubt you'll be willing to have a reasonable discussion... Your response doesn't have a sincere tone and I think you just want to argue, and seemed posed to do just that.

If you want to dispute against scripture, perhaps you can find someone who does not value the Word of God and doesn't mind dragging it through your personal interpretation.

Btw, I don't have "beliefs..." I read scripture. It's simple and doesn't require someone to assert their interpretations.

All that and not one scripture provided to show a future Millennial Kingdom on this earth, because none exists

Jesus Is The Lord

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 1/28/2025 at 11:19 PM, truth7t7 said:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Who are "they" that shall see Him coming in the clouds?

Paul says we saints will be up in the clouds with Him, right?
[1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]

Therefore "they" in Matthew 24:30 are the remaining mortals
that were not caught up into the clouds, they, are left for the birds.

 

Immediately after the tribulation of those days
shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light
and the stars shall fall from the sky

the sun became black as sackcloth and the moon became as blood

And the stars of the sky fell unto the earth

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in the sky;
and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn

And the kings of the earth... and every slave and every free man,
hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains
And said... fall on us and hide us from the face of Him
that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;
For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?

and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds
of the sky with power and great glory....

 

Revelation 6:12-17 matches the order given in Matthew 24:29-30

Thereby we can understand people go into rocks and caves,
shortly before the day of the Lord.

Also such is specifically stated in Isaiah 2:19
"they shall go into the holes of the rocks,
and in the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord,
and for the glory of His majesty,
when He arises to shake terribly the earth"

they go underground due to the end time happenings.
This sentiment is also in Luke 21:25-26.

People go underground, the Lord returns
raising His saints immortal to be alongside Him as He returns.

 

 

 

During the past 1000 years, Jerusalem has been surrounded by
armies and invaded multiple times.
The nations do battle and will continue to battle until the Lord returns to reign.

If Revelation 20:5-6 is not literal,
was the death and resurrection of Christ literal?

You see the literal death and resurrection of Christ
demonstrates and proves that all these passages:
Job 19:26
Isaiah 26:19
Ezekiel 37:12
Daniel 12:2
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Revelation 20:6
Are indeed about actual literal resurrection.

 

[truth7t7]

8 hours ago, Marston said:

I think Revelation says that Satan will be bound during the millennium. 

In any event, it seems that nobody (especially me) has an understanding of the "millennium".

I fully understand the words (Thousand Years) they do nothing more than explain the Lord's spiritual realm of no time, where one day is a thousand years

2 Peter 3:8KJV

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 1/28/2025 at 2:34 AM, truth7t7 said:

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,

What kingdom?

 

afterwards they that are Christs at His coming

His coming to, reign.

Then comes the end when He shall have delivered up THE KINGDOM
to God.

 

 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 1/28/2025 at 2:34 AM, truth7t7 said:

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,

What kingdom?

 

afterwards they that are Christs at His coming

His coming to, reign.

Then comes the end when He shall have delivered up THE KINGDOM
to God.

 

 

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

What kingdom?

afterwards they that are Christs at His coming

His coming to, reign.

Then comes the end when He shall have delivered up THE KINGDOM
to God.

When Jesus returns the resurrection takes place as the last enemy death is destroyed, this is the final judgment, death and hell are cast into the lake of fire Rev 20:14-15 (The End)

There isn't a Millennial Kingdom on this earth between verses 23-24 below, as you falsely add to scripture something not seen

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 52-54KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

 

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Edited January 30 by truth7t7

[Desopixi Seilynam]

1 minute ago, truth7t7 said:

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

The 1000 year reign of Christ is clearly within those words.

"...the kingdom.... for He must reign until death is destroyed."

The order Paul gives matches the order given in Revelation.

Revelation 20:4-5 = Resurrections
Revelation 20:6-8 = Reign
Revelation 20:14 "and death and hades were cast into the lake of fire"
Revelation 21:4 "there shall be no more death"

[truth7t7]

19 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Who are "they" that shall see Him coming in the clouds?

Paul says we saints will be up in the clouds with Him, right?
[1 Thessalonians 4:16-17]

Therefore "they" in Matthew 24:30 are the remaining mortals
that were not caught up into the clouds, they, are left for the birds.

There is one future coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, the dead in Christ will rise first, and the living will be caught up

At this time the world is dissolved by the Lord's fire in final judgment (The End)

It appears you have a hard time accepting the fact Jesus returns in "Fire" and its not a little boy scout fire in a campground 

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.