The earth is beginning to open her mouth (Revelation 12:15-16).

[luigi]

Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Recently in the news we have heard about the catastrophic wild fires in California that annually are continuing to grow due to increased global warming. These catastrophic wild fires have not just been increasing in California, but also in many other places throughout the world as well. According to Revelation 8:7, these conflagrations will continue to grow until 1/3 of earths trees are burned.

In addition to increasing conflagrations, we are also seeing increasing weather anomalies throughout the world, one of which recently here in the US was the hurricane that inundated and destroyed parts of Western North Carolina, where hurricanes were never heard of reaching. We are also seeing increasing plagues,--Covid, and bird flu recently, that have also taken a toll on the environment. 

While over the last several decades many have denied man made global warming; --according to Revelation 9:20 the plagues that befall mankind in Revelation chapters 8 and 9, which take a serious toll on earth's environmental resources, are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands make--that today are primarily made by fossil fuel burning industries. So while evidence for increasing anthropogenic weather catastrophes is becoming more evident daily,--the love mankind has for the things his hands make, becomes more evident as the true motive for man's denial of truth in favor of advocating lies (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Though we are not yet at the point where 1/3 of earth's natural resources having been destroyed as depicted in Revelation 8 (mentioned briefly also in the Olivet discourse); we nevertheless see that Satan's mouth in Revelation 12 (that is also the beasts mouth in Revelation 13), will continue to advocate voraciously for the continuing status quo that is destroying the earth (Revelation 11:18), while becoming increasingly belligerent with those advocating the truth.

Any guesses as to the current top world leader (mouth) who claims man made global warming a fabrication?

Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[AdHoc]

59 minutes ago, luigi said:

Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Recently in the news we have heard about the catastrophic wild fires in California that annually are continuing to grow due to increased global warming. These catastrophic wild fires have not just been increasing in California, but also in many other places throughout the world as well. According to Revelation 8:7, these conflagrations will continue to grow until 1/3 of earths trees are burned.

In addition to increasing conflagrations, we are also seeing increasing weather anomalies throughout the world, one of which recently here in the US was the hurricane that inundated and destroyed parts of Western North Carolina, where hurricanes were never heard of reaching. We are also seeing increasing plagues,--Covid, and bird flu recently, that have also taken a toll on the environment. 

While over the last several decades many have denied man made global warming; --according to Revelation 9:20 the plagues that befall mankind in Revelation chapters 8 and 9, which take a serious toll on earth's environmental resources, are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands make--that today are primarily made by fossil fuel burning industries. So while evidence for increasing anthropogenic weather catastrophes is becoming more evident daily,--the love mankind has for the things his hands make, becomes more evident as the true motive for man's denial of truth in favor of advocating lies (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Though we are not yet at the point where 1/3 of earth's natural resources having been destroyed as depicted in Revelation 8 (mentioned briefly also in the Olivet discourse); we nevertheless see that Satan's mouth in Revelation 12 (that is also the beasts mouth in Revelation 13), will continue to advocate voraciously for the continuing status quo that is destroying the earth (Revelation 11:18), while becoming increasingly belligerent with those advocating the truth.

Any guesses as to the current top world leader (mouth) who claims man made global warming a fabrication?

Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

I am the first to agree to correct disposal of our wastes. But it is remarkable that the Bible says that polluting the earth was by; 1. the shedding of innocent blood, 2. sexual offenses and 3. idol worship.

You don't have to be a scientist to know that the people who speak the loudest about waste disposal are the promoters of the above.

No doubt we are reaching the end of this age of God's patience, but scripture points to Christ opening and releasing the seals which do so much destruction. "Wrath" is mentioned 13 times in Revelation. 1o times are the wrath of God.

[luigi]

46 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

I am the first to agree to correct disposal of our wastes. But it is remarkable that the Bible says that polluting the earth was by; 1. the shedding of innocent blood, 2. sexual offenses and 3. idol worship.

You don't have to be a scientist to know that the people who speak the loudest about waste disposal are the promoters of the above.

No doubt we are reaching the end of this age of God's patience, but scripture points to Christ opening and releasing the seals which do so much destruction. "Wrath" is mentioned 13 times in Revelation. 1o times are the wrath of God.

I did not mention anything about waste disposal. I stated that the Word clearly shows that the plagues currently plaguing mankind are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce; and that these plagues are going to increase as described in Revelation chapters 8 & 9, and also mentioned in the Olivet discourse.

The increased shedding of innocent blood, and sexual offenses, are because of increasing idol worship. Idolatry is the same as materialism. The more materialistically inclined people are; the less spiritually (loving their neighbor) inclined they become.

Edited February 6 by luigi

[BornAgain490]

Always be about our Father's business.  That way, we will always be ready. Our redemption draws near. 

 

[farouk]

23 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Always be about our Father's business.  That way, we will always be ready. Our redemption draws near. 

 

HI @BornAgain490 I am also reminded if Hebrews 10.25: "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."

[luigi]

I am also reminded by the Lord telling everyone in these last times to watch for the signs described in the Olivet discourse that include environmental destruction issues correlating with the plagues in Revelation 8.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

[AdHoc]

7 hours ago, luigi said:

I did not mention anything about waste disposal. I stated that the Word clearly shows that the plagues currently plaguing mankind are due to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce; and that these plagues are going to increase as described in Revelation chapters 8 & 9, and also mentioned in the Olivet discourse.

The increased shedding of innocent blood, and sexual offenses, are because of increasing idol worship. Idolatry is the same as materialism. The more materialistically inclined people are; the less spiritually (loving their neighbor) inclined they become.

I hear you brother. I thought our environmental problems come from waste, whether gas or solids. I've lived through four of the Club of Rome's contrived plagues 1. no oil of the 1970's, 2. acid rain of the 80's, 3. ozone holes of the 90's and 4. CO2 of the 2,000's. Each one was solved by the common man paying for something. So you term it "what hands produce" and I might call is "waste products", but I think we're on the same page. The only difference is that I call them contrived and you might take them for real. To each his own.

There is "increased" polluting crime in our day, but I meant Cain and Abel. It was Adam's sin and Cain's murder that got the earth cursed. I estimate that the problem of over-population will suddenly disappear if we could have normal harvests.

But above all, I would like to comment on your title. The Woman of Revelation 12 is mysterious for she is a "wonder" (a "sign" - lit. Gk.) but she can be persecuted. She is heavenly and Satan squares off with her in heaven, but she delivers a child on the earth. The child is raptured to the throne but she must flee to a wilderness. The Dragon persecutes her but the EARTH, and NOT God help her. Her Man-child is either Christ or the Overcomers for only these two will rule the Nations. The fact that she is mother of other seed which were born before the man-child could be puzzling, especially as they are divided into two groups;
1. One keeps the commandments of God (not Christ)
2. The other has the testimony of Jesus Christ

I think that your title is most interesting and could produce quite some discussion as this constellation appears two more times. The term "the commandments of God" is used exclusively in the Old Testament for the Law of Moses. But most interesting is that she is left for the EARTH to help her for 1260 days - the duration of the Great Tribulation. You'd think that the mother of the totality of God's people on earth would be "caught up" to the Throne too. But they are left on earth ???

[luigi]

10 hours ago, AdHoc said:

I hear you brother. I thought our environmental problems come from waste, whether gas or solids. I've lived through four of the Club of Rome's contrived plagues 1. no oil of the 1970's, 2. acid rain of the 80's, 3. ozone holes of the 90's and 4. CO2 of the 2,000's. Each one was solved by the common man paying for something. So you term it "what hands produce" and I might call is "waste products", but I think we're on the same page. The only difference is that I call them contrived and you might take them for real. To each his own.

There is "increased" polluting crime in our day, but I meant Cain and Abel. It was Adam's sin and Cain's murder that got the earth cursed. I estimate that the problem of over-population will suddenly disappear if we could have normal harvests.

But above all, I would like to comment on your title. The Woman of Revelation 12 is mysterious for she is a "wonder" (a "sign" - lit. Gk.) but she can be persecuted. She is heavenly and Satan squares off with her in heaven, but she delivers a child on the earth. The child is raptured to the throne but she must flee to a wilderness. The Dragon persecutes her but the EARTH, and NOT God help her. Her Man-child is either Christ or the Overcomers for only these two will rule the Nations. The fact that she is mother of other seed which were born before the man-child could be puzzling, especially as they are divided into two groups;
1. One keeps the commandments of God (not Christ)
2. The other has the testimony of Jesus Christ

I think that your title is most interesting and could produce quite some discussion as this constellation appears two more times. The term "the commandments of God" is used exclusively in the Old Testament for the Law of Moses. But most interesting is that she is left for the EARTH to help her for 1260 days - the duration of the Great Tribulation. You'd think that the mother of the totality of God's people on earth would be "caught up" to the Throne too. But they are left on earth ???

My perspective of the woman, is of everyone today (including myself) who are trying to work out our current double mindedness (our love for this world toward solely love for God and our neighbor). They who work out their salvation who become singularly minded toward love for God and their neighbor (as were Peter and Paul), having no longer a love for the things of this world (Mammon), then achieve the status of the male child who is caught up spiritually to God in Heaven, as were Peter and Paul.

They who give up, then end up along with those whose love for this world and its things kept them from ever attempting to reach for God and love for their neighbor.