Why do many Christians have a strong disdain for Jewish people?

[Luther]

4 hours ago, Gracejj said:

Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people whom he has Chosen as His Heritage!!

Psalm 33:12. 

I love this verse, and I cringe every time someone applies it to today's state of Israel. Besides the beautiful display of kindness and love towards their neighbors, You do realize that God has rejected them because they rejected him?

You cannot have God the Father without God the Son. 

1 John 2:22-23 KJV

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Psalm 33:12 has everything to do with the nation of believers in Jesus Christ. 

[Luther]

On 2/16/2025 at 8:34 AM, Marston said:

Maybe it's God's plan that they remain "lost" from him until Jesus comes in glory and saves them - or not. :) 

"jews" are under the same "law of sin and death". I don't know where this special treatment comes from. 

The Old Testament makes it quite clear that their relationship with God is over. I have a good example here:

Isaiah 65:11-15 KJV

But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. [12] Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. [13] Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: [14] Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit. [15] And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, Anne2 said:

I am speaking of what I think the the role of a nation Isreal in this world given the law that brings wrath.....Not the Church in Christ.

THE LAW of Moses. Of the Sinai/Horeb covenant....

 Ro 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
1Ti 1:9  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
 

Thank you for explaining.

I have friends who are strongly for the Jews for the simple fact that they are jews and they believe something as the Jews believed at the time of the disciples and continued to do there after. 

It is not just supporting them as a Nation and I will never say anything against that. 

Edited February 19 by Your closest friendnt

[Marston]

43 minutes ago, Luther said:

I love this verse, and I cringe every time someone applies it to today's state of Israel. Besides the beautiful display of kindness and love towards their neighbors, You do realize that God has rejected them because they rejected him?

You cannot have God the Father without God the Son. 

1 John 2:22-23 KJV

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Psalm 33:12 has everything to do with the nation of believers in Jesus Christ. 

 

[Anne2]

39 minutes ago, Luther said:

"jews" are under the same "law of sin and death". I don't know where this special treatment comes from. 

Ro 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

19  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
 

If God was done with Jew's, Would this abound grace? 

Lev 26: 44  And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.
45  But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.
 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

36 minutes ago, Luther said:

I love this verse, and I cringe every time someone applies it to today's state of Israel. Besides the beautiful display of kindness and love towards their neighbors, You do realize that God has rejected them because they rejected him?

You cannot have God the Father without God the Son. 

1 John 2:22-23 KJV

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Psalm 33:12 has everything to do with the nation of believers in Jesus Christ. 

We have to continue to support the Ministries that work hard to bring the Gospel to them worldwide. 

I just remembered that Stephen at the time just before he died he prayed for them and said Lord forgive them for they not know what they are doing. 

And Jesus Christ also said the same thing. Jesus prayed the same prayer and I believe that he said that for when later in a few weeks he will send his disciples to them with the good news to remembered that he has forgiven them and no to judge themselves according to the Law in the same way Judas did that there is no reconciliation available to them. 

Jesus on his own he forgives them that what he preached that anyone who do or say anything against the Son of Man God will forgive him which is not the case under the Sinai Covenant. Certainly we have to preach the Gospel to them as the good news with kindness looking at them with mercy because they need to believe also. Avoid all negative because then will be offended and go away with a strong righteous indignation just as it happened to Stephen. That's my take. I know some Jews a lot of them even a Rabbi who things I am also a Jew and he keeps lifting up my baseball hut looking to see if under it I am wearing the Jewish kippah because I know a lot about their religion. One time he said you know a lot more than many Jews. 

Where I live in that suburb we have thousands of jewish people and every a few blocks in their neighborhood they have a synagogue and a school. The Mayor was Jweish for 35 years and we are used to one another. They have their Jewish store and bagels and breads and their baked goods and delicatessen. In the supermarkets and they also have their own, they gave a section for Jewish customers full selection. But we have the same cashiers and we are used to one another. 

[Anne2]

Just now, Your closest friendnt said:

We have to continue to support the Ministries that work hard to bring the Gospel to them worldwide. 

I just remembered that Stephen at the time just before he died he prayed for them and said Lord forgive them for they not know what they are doing. 

And Jesus Christ also said the same thing. Jesus prayed the same prayer and I believe that he said that for when later in a few weeks he will send his disciples to them with the good news to remembered that he has forgiven them and no to judge themselves according to the Law in the same way Judas did that there is no reconciliation available to them. 

Jesus on his own he forgives them that what he preached that anyone who do or say anything against the Son of Man God will forgive him which is not the case under the Sinai Covenant. Certainly we have to preach the Gospel to them as the good news with kindness looking at them with mercy because they need to believe also. Avoid all negative because then will be offended and go away with a strong righteous indignation just as it happened to Stephen. That's my take. I know some Jews a lot of them even a Rabbi who things I am also a Jew and he keeps lifting up my baseball hut looking to see if under it I am wearing the Jewish kippah because I know a lot about their religion. One time he said you know a lot more than many Jews. 

Where I live in that suburb we have thousands of jewish people and every a few blocks in their neighborhood they have a synagogue and a school. The Mayor was Jweish for 35 years and we are used to one another. They have their Jewish store and bagels and breads and their baked goods and delicatessen. In the supermarkets and they also have their own, they gave a section for Jewish customers full selection. But we have the same cashiers and we are used to one another. 

In blinding the people, I believe they sin in ignorance.....The law forgives such sins. 

[Luther]

31 minutes ago, Marston said:

 

Sorry just giving the glory where it's due. Christ died for His people. 

[Luther]

11 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We have to continue to support the Ministries that work hard to bring the Gospel to them worldwide. 

I just remembered that Stephen at the time just before he died he prayed for them and said Lord forgive them for they not know what they are doing. 

And Jesus Christ also said the same thing. Jesus prayed the same prayer and I believe that he said that for when later in a few weeks he will send his disciples to them with the good news to remembered that he has forgiven them and no to judge themselves according to the Law in the same way Judas did that there is no reconciliation available to them. 

Jesus on his own he forgives them that what he preached that anyone who do or say anything against the Son of Man God will forgive him which is not the case under the Sinai Covenant. Certainly we have to preach the Gospel to them as the good news with kindness looking at them with mercy because they need to believe also. Avoid all negative because then will be offended and go away with a strong righteous indignation just as it happened to Stephen. That's my take. I know some Jews a lot of them even a Rabbi who things I am also a Jew and he keeps lifting up my baseball hut looking to see if under it I am wearing the Jewish kippah because I know a lot about their religion. One time he said you know a lot more than many Jews. 

Where I live in that suburb we have thousands of jewish people and every a few blocks in their neighborhood they have a synagogue and a school. The Mayor was Jweish for 35 years and we are used to one another. They have their Jewish store and bagels and breads and their baked goods and delicatessen. In the supermarkets and they also have their own, they gave a section for Jewish customers full selection. But we have the same cashiers and we are used to one another. 

You said: "because I know a lot about their religion. One time he said you know a lot more than many Jews."

If you don't mind me asking, what do you know about the talmud?

[Luther]

13 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Ro 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

19  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
 

If God was done with Jew's, Would this abound grace? 

Lev 26: 44  And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.
45  But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.
 

 

Anne, God is done with them as a group of people who were called to be a representation of Him. They are no longer His people because those who trust in Jesus Christ are. New Covenant grace.