have you ever wondered how they,Jesus and the other two men were taken down?

[Locust]

i have .in reality there is but one smart way . i have worked the better part of my life as a carpenter . building homes ,pole barns, decks .

standing poles  by hand is doable ,two men can make it happen .

yet i speculate it was much harder to stand a pole with a man nailed on up nearer the top .as soon as the pole is lifted the body that was on the top side is going to rotate so that the body would then be on the bottom side. at that point the men would have to put hands on the person not on wood. 

the romans were clever and well  practiced .they truly did things we would like to think ''that was not possible.''  

i will speculate they knew that if a cross bar is placed about 4' from the bottom it would give two extra men a place to give aid

(i know that, likely they did to.)

not only would they keep the thing from rolling over  but when it gets raised enough  they would take over in the push to stand it .

hours later the men, now dead ,were taken down . how was that done?

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, Locust said:

i have .in reality there is but one smart way . i have worked the better part of my life as a carpenter . building homes ,pole barns, decks .

standing poles  by hand is doable ,two men can make it happen .

yet i speculate it was much harder to stand a pole with a man nailed on up nearer the top .as soon as the pole is lifted the body that was on the top side is going to rotate so that the body would then be on the bottom side. at that point the men would have to put hands on the person not on wood. 

the romans were clever and well  practiced .they truly did things we would like to think ''that was not possible.''  

i will speculate they knew that if a cross bar is placed about 4' from the bottom it would give two extra men a place to give aid

(i know that, likely they did to.)

not only would they keep the thing from rolling over  but when it gets raised enough  they would take over in the push to stand it .

hours later the men, now dead ,were taken down . how was that done?

I don't suppose an appeal to scholarship would yield results regarding how Jesus was removed from the cross, but it is taught that normally the bodies of those crucified by the Romans were left in situ to rot and be devoured by birds. This was supposedly a deterrent for would-be troublemakers. Other than that, the Romans used tools and equipment in massive construction projects, so getting a body off a cross would be no problem. 

I have been known to simply split timber when stubborn nails resisted hammers and crowbars.

[Marathoner]

2 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I don't suppose an appeal to scholarship would yield results regarding how Jesus was removed from the cross, but it is taught that normally the bodies of those crucified by the Romans were left in situ to rot and be devoured by birds. This was supposedly a deterrent for would-be troublemakers. Other than that, the Romans used tools and equipment in massive construction projects, so getting a body off a cross would be no problem. 

I have been known to simply split timber when stubborn nails resisted hammers and crowbars.

The Romans would allow Jews to bury (entomb) the crucified if someone claimed the body, as was the case with the Lord. 

[Who me]

Equa.ly how did they get them up on the cross?

I've  always assumed  that the upright of the cross was permanently  in place and that Jesus carried the cross beam.

Once hailed to that both it and Jesus would have to be lifted high enough for the cross beam to fit on to the upright.

 

Alternatively  the complete  cross plus body would have to be lifted up, steadied and the foot of the cross dropped into the awaiting socket.

 

Removal of a body would be a reverse of placing it on the cross.

[Locust]

13 hours ago, Who me said:

Equa.ly how did they get them up on the cross?

not to call it simple ,the men were nailed to the wood .it was then stood. I did explain the trick of standing it up , first page 

[Locust]

to say it was a cross comes with some problems . its known that Romans did not always use a pole with cross member . often the cross member was not use , unless they wanted the one hung up to be tortured for days. depending on the time of year hypothermia,or dehydration if it took days to die. the one's hung up were most likely naked .

Jesus and the other two had to be dead and buried before sundown . with that information its far more likely they were hung hanging by their hands from up over there heads,six hours they would be dead. those Roman guys had killing someone down to a science .

it was discovered by Hitlers cronies that when a person is hung up by the hands and extra weight was added to the person they would be dead in under an hour .    Suffocation

[Locust]

13 hours ago, Who me said:

Alternatively  the complete  cross plus body would have to be lifted up, steadied and the foot of the cross dropped into the awaiting socket.

the hole the pole was dropped into could of been 3-4' deep .it dropping freely that far with a sudden stop could and did disjoint bones . it was said it would happen and it did.

[Michael37]

31 minutes ago, Locust said:

not to call it simple ,the men were nailed to the wood .it was then stood. I did explain the trick of standing it up , first page 

I'm wanting more than just a guess by someone who wasn't there. No verifiable proof is available of how Christ was crucified and removed from the cross.

[Locust]

2 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

I'm wanting more than just a guess by someone who wasn't there. No verifiable proof is available of how Christ was crucified and removed from the cross.

people of that time they should be at least as smart/clever as you . how are you going to put it up,take it down?

[enoob57]

One thing for sure- they were probably not careful on how much damage they did to it taking it down!