Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Have Death and Hades been cast into the Lake of Fire yet?  NO

If we are in the New Heaven and the New Earth as you say. We have no more Testimony to proclaim.  No one to proclaim it to.  All have glorified eternal bodies, of which no one here has. 

We are still waiting for the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments, Armageddon and the Second Coming, all of which are future.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Have Death and Hades been cast into the Lake of Fire yet?  NO

For me they have. I am well grounded in the Gospel just like day and night that there is nothing they can do to make me renounce the faith of Jesus Christ. 

For some others it will happen when they die as believers. Nothing they can do to anyone who dies a believer in Jesus Christ. 

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

If we are in the New Heaven and the New Earth as you say. We have no more Testimony to proclaim. 

 

This is no truth. It's far away from the truth as the day from the night. Think about what you are saying again. In Heaven we will be proclaiming his majesty. Not just us but also the Angels. Just our presence there it proclaims his GLORY. 

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

 

No one to proclaim it to.  All have glorified eternal bodies, of which no one here has. 

You mix it up. He Crushed our bodies, the sell of where we used to live with his iron rod. There is no used to eat. Just like the clay from the earth to the earth. In Heaven He will give us our Heavenly bodies. 

We all must appear before him as we are after we die and after we are escorted to Heaven then we will been given the Heavenly body.

It cannot be to cloth us with the Heavenly body before we are there. 

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

We are still waiting for the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments, Armageddon and the Second Coming, all of which are future. 

Ever changed configurations. 

He can come as a thief but He does not have. We are ready for him. He is welcome to come anytime. Our hearts are open. We are not closing the door of our hearts to him.. He can come as simple and asking for a glass of water. We will open the door of our heart to him. 

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

Edited yesterday at 04:51 AM by Your closest friendnt

[truth7t7]

6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We are in the New Covenant since the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. We are living in the New Earth since 2000 years ago.

Revelation 21:1KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Yes, Jesus does warn us of your teachings. 

Waiting for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to descend to the Mt of Olives is what Israel is waiting for.

False teaching,  Misapplied Scripture is what you pedal..

Yet, maybe there is hope for some of these individuals.

Zech 8:3 - This is what the Lord says; I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem.

Zech 8:4 - This is what the Lord Almighty says; Once again men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with cane in hand because of his age.  The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there.  Will there be the need for canes in the New Heaven and the New Earth for all things are new, all have glorified eternal bodies.

v.23 - In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, Let us go with you because we have heard that God is with you.

Zech 14:8 - On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea and half to the western sea in summer and winter. Remember no Seas in the New Heavens and New Earth.

v. 20 - On that day HOLY TO THE LORD will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord's house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar.  Every pot in Jerusalem will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots to cook in them  They come to sacrifice

This is all about the 1000 year reign of Christ.  Those who reject this preach the spirit of antichrist

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

 

 

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heaven And Earth

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Yes, Jesus does warn us of your teachings. 

Waiting for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to descend to the Mt of Olives is what Israel is waiting for.

False teaching,  Misapplied Scripture is what you pedal..

Yet, maybe there is hope for some of these individuals.

Zech 8:3 - This is what the Lord says; I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem.

Zech 8:4 - This is what the Lord Almighty says; Once again men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with cane in hand because of his age.  The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there.  Will there be the need for canes in the New Heaven and the New Earth for all things are new, all have glorified eternal bodies.

v.23 - In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, Let us go with you because we have heard that God is with you.

Zech 14:8 - On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea and half to the western sea in summer and winter. Remember no Seas in the New Heavens and New Earth.

v. 20 - On that day HOLY TO THE LORD will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord's house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar.  Every pot in Jerusalem will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots to cook in them  They come to sacrifice

This is all about the 1000 year reign of Christ.  Those who reject this preach the spirit of antichrist

In Christ

Montana Marv

Zechariah 14:16, Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

[Your closest friendnt]

37 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 21:1KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

We are born and die in the New Earth and in the New Heavenandin the New underworld . God has reconcile the world unto himself. Jesus has died. All authority every where in the Heaven above and in the Earth and in all things under the earth has been given to him. He is the Lord of Lords. 

Unless you are of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ that he is the Messiah. 

Edited 23 hours ago by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

58 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 21:1KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

In the New we do not have the multitude of the Gentiles. We don't have sea. 

There are no Gentiles in the New Covenant. Only the man who is ready to believe upon the hearing of the Gospel. Former Jews and former Gentiles. 

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We are born and die in the New Earth and in the New Heavenandin the New underworld . God has reconcile the world unto himself. Jesus has died. All authority every where in the Heaven above and in the Earth and in all things under the earth has been given to him. He is the Lord of Lords. 

Unless you are of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ that he is the Messiah. 

I Disagree With Your Claims

This Earth Will Be Dissolved By The Lord's Fire At His Return,It Will Be A Completely New Creation In The New Heaven And Earth 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Edited 21 hours ago by truth7t7

[Montana Marv]

8 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You always leave this out. v 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain.  The Lord will bring on them the Plague he inflicts on nations that do not go up to celebrated the Feast of Tabernacles.

Egyptians are singled out among the nations.  Don't observe, no Rain  (SIN)

No rain is the Plague he inflicts on nations who do not observe the Feast of Tabernacles.   Disobedience is SIN

So with a loud voice you proclaim that there is SIN in the New Heaven and on the New Earth.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[In1]

20 hours ago, Anne2 said:

The power of it all is literal....Revelation is not at all absent the new covenant gospel of and in Jesus the Christ.

"The power of it all is literal", and I experience it everyday, I go in and out and find pasture ... there is no longer a way to put into words (and hasn't been for many years) to share what I no longer labor for.

[In1]

18 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Did you get yours from the Gideon's.  A well read Bible is a good Bible.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I used to use those (before bible programs became a thing) for single word studies, each bible dedicated to a single word ... I have worn out three personnel Bibles, but I have had it memorized (the KJV anyway) for a lot of years now ...