Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[truth7t7]

9 minutes ago, Locust said:

when does that happen ? could it be after the 1000 years is complete ? 

My post was very detailed in when the resurrection from mortal to immortal takes place, as the last enemy death is swallowed up in victory, the resurrection takes place at the Lord's second coming (Then Cometh The End) read it real slow and maybe you will see it?

[Locust]

2 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

from mortal to immortal

that does not happen 

[truth7t7]

6 minutes ago, Locust said:

that does not happen 

Of course mortal becomes immortal at the resurrection of the dead, just as 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 teaches, the resurrection of the dead takes place at the Lord's second coming just as 1 Corinthians 15:21-24 teaches

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 52-54KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Edited 22 hours ago by truth7t7

[Locust]

the resurrection of the dead begins shortly after Armageddon  is complete. and there is no reason to believe billions of people will be resurrected all at once . it should take a number of years .  those that make through to the completion of the 1000 years are then given immortality . at that point the dead are truly alive.

oh I should say they are called the dead because they were ,at one point dead . ya the point is confusing to some Bible readers.

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[truth7t7]

41 minutes ago, Locust said:

the resurrection of the dead begins shortly after Armageddon  is complete. and there is no reason to believe billions of people will be resurrected all at once . it should take a number of years . 

Scripture clearly teaches the resurrection takes place and all the dead shall come forth at once John 5:28-29 (All That Are In The Graves Shall Hear His Voice And Come Forth) this will take place in the (Twinkling Of An Eye) 1 Corinthians 15:52

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

1 Corinthians 15:52KJV

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Edited 21 hours ago by truth7t7

[Locust]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Of course mortal becomes immortal at the resurrection of the dead, just as 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 teaches, the resurrection of the dead takes place at the Lord's second coming just as 1 Corinthians 15:21-24 teaches

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 52-54KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

its likely you have yet to figure out there are those that rise to be taken to heaven ,and then later those that are resurrected to live again here on earth.

the first serve in heaven they are the 144000. for the most part  I believe that resurrection has all ready happen. how many still remain to fill that number is not known 

[Locust]

8 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Scripture clearly teaches the resurrection takes place and all the dead shall come forth at once John 5:28-29 (All That Are In The Graves Shall Hear His Voice And Come Forth) this will take place in the (Twinkling Of An Eye) 1 Corinthians 15:52

ya kinda add to that verse . it does not say all would rise on the same day. yes all that are resurrected will hear ,but that does not mean it happens on the same day .

Matthew 19: 30 does not say the resurrection begins with those that died thousands of years ago . but begins from our time back.  we know things ,we know what happened  and will be responsible to tell early and earlier generations what happened since they had died.  

[christsavedme]

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

You missed the entire claim of my post and jumped directly to the claim that Satan isn't bound because evil is presently in the world.

Read it real slow and understand that the words "Deceive The Nations" in Revelation 20:3 is specifically interpreted in Revelation 20:8 in context, "Deceive The Nations Is To Battle" not the binding of satans general evil in the world presently.

Once Again:

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming.

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign.

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle.

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

For those seeking to align their lives with God’s will during these times, resources like prayer points with scriptures can provide spiritual strength. Exploring the deeper meanings of biblical terms like Yahweh or the Beatitudescan also ground your faith as you navigate these complex teachings.

 

 

I really appreciate the passion you bring to unpacking Revelation 20! Your focus on “deceive the nations” meaning to gather for battle, not just general evil, is a thought-provoking angle. It’s like you’re saying Satan’s chained up from starting the final showdown until God’s ready, which makes sense with the way Revelation ties those passages together.

I’ve always found Revelation tricky because it’s so full of symbols, but your point about the non-literal 1,000 years feels like a solid way to see it—as a spiritual reality happening now, not a future calendar countdown. The way you connect the vials and Armageddon to Satan’s release is super interesting too. It’s like God’s got everything timed perfectly.

I’m curious, though—how do you think this view of Satan being bound right now helps folks live out their faith day-to-day? Like, does it change how we pray or face challenges? Would love to hear more of your thoughts!

 

 

 

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, Locust said:

its likely you have yet to figure out there are those that rise to be taken to heaven ,and then later those that are resurrected to live again here on earth.

the first serve in heaven they are the 144000. for the most part  I believe that resurrection has all ready happen. how many still remain to fill that number is not known 

We Disagree, there is only one future resurrection of "All" and it takes place at the Lord's second coming on the last day (Then Cometh The End) when death is swallowed up in victory

[Alive]

1 hour ago, christsavedme said:

 

 

I really appreciate the passion you bring to unpacking Revelation 20! Your focus on “deceive the nations” meaning to gather for battle, not just general evil, is a thought-provoking angle. It’s like you’re saying Satan’s chained up from starting the final showdown until God’s ready, which makes sense with the way Revelation ties those passages together.

I’ve always found Revelation tricky because it’s so full of symbols, but your point about the non-literal 1,000 years feels like a solid way to see it—as a spiritual reality happening now, not a future calendar countdown. The way you connect the vials and Armageddon to Satan’s release is super interesting too. It’s like God’s got everything timed perfectly.

I’m curious, though—how do you think this view of Satan being bound right now helps folks live out their faith day-to-day? Like, does it change how we pray or face challenges? Would love to hear more of your thoughts!

 

 

 

It's wonderful to see such a nice friendly and well reasoned response for additional thoughts of a member. Great discourse.