Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Alive]

12 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Yes your false teaching that those in "Hell" will have a second chance to be saved during your fairy tail Millennial Kingdom on this earth is " A Joke"!

Please lighten up a little. Be nice while making a point.

:-)

[DeighAnn]

5 hours ago, Locust said:

ya ,because the place does not exist!

it is a thing ...

I put forth the earth does exist, and it is a place, not a thing. 

I put forth the Lords Day is a 'time' in the future that takes place on the earth. 

Have you ever looked into this verse?  Book of Revelation 1:10  

I was in [the] Spirit on the Lord's Day and I heard behind me a voice loud, like that of a trumpet

2960  kuriakos - of the Lord - belonging to the Lord. 

Can you find this word used anywhere in the Bible when speaking of church or day of rest?  No.  The one other time this word is used, is of the LORDS SUPPER/COMMUNION.  The 'vision' received tells us this 'day' is a special day, like no other. 

Order of events given, in quite literal terms

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming

The wicked revealed, destroyed by the Lords Coming, is described

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 

Judgement and war which results in

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 

Alongside that this takes place.

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more,

And it lasts for 

till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

And during that time

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them 

aka the Millennium

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

So the first resurrection consists of:

Those who RETURNED with Christ having fallen asleep and followed Him, and then returned with Him now joined with those who were alive and remaining and changed unto His return  

and they have all attained to eternal life, are now 'immortal'.  

The FIRST resurrection then, is of those in flesh and blood bodies who become SAVED BEFORE the Lords Day begins.  

Now we still need to deal with the DEAD who were raised at the 2nd Advent and what happens to them 

5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

These "dead" are the 'dead' who were raised up at the 2nd Advent / Christ returned and the best they can hope for, as far as becoming one of the 'living'/immortal/ones with eternal life', is to get their names in the Book of life at the end of the 1000 years/Lords Day at the GWTJ. 

UNTIL the GWTJ, the dead have NO choice/chance to change that status and so they remain MORTAL/facing the SECOND DEATH.  The spiritually dead remain that way for the entire 1000 years because unlike the opportunity we have to be saved through faith at anytime we choose, they can only be saved through works, not to mention they also must be 'tempted of the Devil' just as we are, and since Satan isn't loosed from the pit for 1000 years, that is how long they have to wait. 

BUT if all goes well, and they succeed in their works and faithfulness to God when the short season comes upon them, they will be of the second resurrection and will go from being one of the 'dead' to one of the living. 

As for those who don't do so well, they will face the 2nd DEATH in the LOF, in which they will be consumed, and the SMOKE of their once 'being a soul' goes up forever. That is the PUNISHMENT.  That is the 2nd Death. That is the punishment never ends.  No pain, no tears, no sorrow, just 'blotted out' and ceased to exist. 

That is what GOD calls the SECOND DEATH.


Back to those who will sit upon the thrones...

This is the first resurrection.  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 


Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

[Locust]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

I put forth the earth does exist, and it is a place, not a thing. 

I put forth the Lords Day is a 'time' in the future that takes place on the earth. 

Have you ever looked into this verse?  Book of Revelation 1:10  

I was in [the] Spirit on the Lord's Day and I heard behind me a voice loud, like that of a trumpet

2960  kuriakos - of the Lord - belonging to the Lord. 

Can you find this word used anywhere in the Bible when speaking of church or day of rest?  No.  The one other time this word is used, is of the LORDS SUPPER/COMMUNION.  The 'vision' received tells us this 'day' is a special day, like no other. 

Order of events given, in quite literal terms

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming

The wicked revealed, destroyed by the Lords Coming, is described

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 

Judgement and war which results in

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 

Alongside that this takes place.

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more,

And it lasts for 

till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

And during that time

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them 

aka the Millennium

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

So the first resurrection consists of:

Those who RETURNED with Christ having fallen asleep and followed Him, and then returned with Him now joined with those who were alive and remaining and changed unto His return  

and they have all attained to eternal life, are now 'immortal'.  

The FIRST resurrection then, is of those in flesh and blood bodies who become SAVED BEFORE the Lords Day begins.  

Now we still need to deal with the DEAD who were raised at the 2nd Advent and what happens to them 

5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

These "dead" are the 'dead' who were raised up at the 2nd Advent / Christ returned and the best they can hope for, as far as becoming one of the 'living'/immortal/ones with eternal life', is to get their names in the Book of life at the end of the 1000 years/Lords Day at the GWTJ. 

UNTIL the GWTJ, the dead have NO choice/chance to change that status and so they remain MORTAL/facing the SECOND DEATH.  The spiritually dead remain that way for the entire 1000 years because unlike the opportunity we have to be saved through faith at anytime we choose, they can only be saved through works, not to mention they also must be 'tempted of the Devil' just as we are, and since Satan isn't loosed from the pit for 1000 years, that is how long they have to wait. 

BUT if all goes well, and they succeed in their works and faithfulness to God when the short season comes upon them, they will be of the second resurrection and will go from being one of the 'dead' to one of the living. 

As for those who don't do so well, they will face the 2nd DEATH in the LOF, in which they will be consumed, and the SMOKE of their once 'being a soul' goes up forever. That is the PUNISHMENT.  That is the 2nd Death. That is the punishment never ends.  No pain, no tears, no sorrow, just 'blotted out' and ceased to exist. 

That is what GOD calls the SECOND DEATH.


Back to those who will sit upon the thrones...

This is the first resurrection.  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 


Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

if its on earth then it has an address . its not on earth ,really its not anywhere as its found in the book revelation . a book of signs descriptive of somethings that's going to happen . if the book was written to confuse it was done very well. 

[truth7t7]

10 hours ago, Locust said:

does not sound like an act of fire 

Of course it's the Lord's "Fire" as men are consumed by the Lord's fire as they stand upon their feet Zechariah 14:12 below on (The Day Of The Lord)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

[truth7t7]

9 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

I believe eternal punishment is ceasing to exist.  

The exact belief and teaching of Ellen G. White and 7th day Adventist

Annihilationism = Ceasing To Exist

The Bible clearly teaches of conscious eternal punishment of the unsaved

 

[Locust]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

The exact belief and teaching of Ellen G. White and 7th day Adventist

Annihilationism = Ceasing To Exist

The Bible clearly teaches of conscious eternal punishment of the unsaved

 

which book of the Bible did you get that?

[truth7t7]

On 5/9/2025 at 4:31 PM, DeighAnn said:

 only the 'dead in Christ' go to hell while those 'made alive in Christ' go to heaven.  

Your statement made above is way outside Christian orthodoxy, the righteous dead will never be in hell as is falsely claimed above, "Sad"!

Edited 16 hours ago by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, Locust said:

which book of the Bible did you get that?

Will you now deny (He Shall Be Tormented With Fire And Brimstone) and apply the "False" Ellen G. White 7th Day Adventist teaching of it's only their smoke that's tormented, because their Annihilated and Don't exist, Smiles!

Revelation 14:9-11KJV

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Edited 16 hours ago by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

14 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

 The DEAD rise at the return of Christ.  1000 years later the DEAD stand at the GWTJ.  

For The 4th Time The Claim Is "False"

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of "All" the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

Edited 16 hours ago by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

14 hours ago, Alive said:

Please lighten up a little. Be nice while making a point.

:-)

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