Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Your closest friendnt]

39 minutes ago, Alive said:

Here is our assurance that the elect will not be deceived. We either believe Jesus's Words and be comforted or not.

Matt. 24:24 (NAS20S) “For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great   signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

Mark 13:22 (NAS20S) for false christs and false prophets will arise, and will provide signs and wonders, in order to mislead, if possible, the elect.

When the time comes, the elect will know.

But how do you know the false teachers?

The disciples were the eye witness and they teach the people that Jesus Christ indeed died and was raised from the dead and they Wachtel him ascended into Heaven. It was like that as they were looking at Him, Jesus Christ began to ascend up as he was upright and they looked at Him. The sign of Jesus Christ in the Sky. And as He was up High in the Sky a cloud cover him about and that's it.

And the two Angels said: in this manner Jesus Christ went up into Heaven and in the same way manner Jesus Christ will come in the same way as you show him go into Heaven. 

 Acts 1:11. ESV and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same wiay as you saw him go into heaven."

The Angels told the disciples what happened to Jesus after the cloud cover Jesus and they could not see him anymore. 

At this time it was the Angels testimony that Jesus went in Heaven. ( like if you hear someone say Jesus is here or there do not believe it because the Angels gave the testimony that Jesus was taken up in Heaven. 

The disciples were told from Jesus that it will happen but they only witness him ascending till the cloud cover him up. 

They Angels were not with the disciples all along as they were watching Jesus ascending and cover with the cloud. 

But they appear to them after the cloud cover Jesus to tell them what happened. That what Jesus had told them earlier had been fulfilled. 

 

[Montana Marv]

32 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Your present one big paragraph in your opinions without scripture in support "Why"?

 

For that is how I process eschatology. 

Do the math, One horse and ride occupy approximately 32 sq feet. of space.  How many sq feet in an acre, how many acres in a sq. mile.  How long does it take one to travel 700 miles, approx distance from Euphrates River to Armageddon site.  How many people reside in the area of India.  What percentage of total world land mass does the western hemisphere with New Zealand and Australia occupy.

It might open your eyes up if you knew.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Your closest friendnt]

Jesus ascending on his own and alone was witness by the disciples and the disciples had the testimony of Jesus Christ that He will ascent into His Father in Heaven who is being waiting for Him

And the Angels gave the Testimony that Jesus Christ went up in Heaven and He will come back on his own. 

As Jesus had said earlier before the Cross: don't asked yourself who is going to take me up and who is going to bring me down. 

In the 1st Chapter of Revelation it happened just that. Jesus Christ came back just as it was by the Angels. Jesus was taken up without a big noise and trumpets and shouting from Angels and lightning and Thunder. And in the same way Jesus Christ came back to John in the Island of Patmos and appeared only to him. And at that time we have the witness that there has been a big shaking in the underworld. And in the Heavens. 

What was revealed at that time by what John saw and by what Jesus told him that the Old Heaven is gone and we have a New Heaven. 

Before Jesus Christ Ascension we look into Heaven and we see it as it was. 

After the Ascension we see a deferent Picture Jesus Christ is in his Glory. God has Honored and has Glorified Jesus And has made him Lord of All and the King over all Kings. We see that the way to Heaven had been opened for mankind in Jesus Christ death in his name. 

Definitely this is a picture of a New Heaven. 

Haven is open to mankind in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is Glorified and he is not in his humble form anymore but in his Glorious appearance as he appear to John. 

Are you going to build a house and a luxurious Palace to lured him to make his abode there? You want to detained him in a certain place and certain structure. Do you want to manage his affairs? 

Do you want him to be in a special place where you can go and visit him or you want Jesus Christ to come to you wherever you are in the Holy Spirit. 

Edited Monday at 07:03 PM by Your closest friendnt

[Luther]

11 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The Good are taken.  Once Lot and his family got out of harms way (taken) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed and all who were left in it.

The Good remain.  Let the tares and wheat grow together, then at the harvest gather/take the tares and burn them.  Which really is separate them.

We will meet the Lord in the air/in air, an area between heaven and earth, then He takes us to His Manson in heaven/Father's House as promised in John 14.

Acts 1:11 - Men of Galilee, why do you stand here looking into the sky?  This same Jesus who has been taken from you into heaven will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.

It all depends: But the Righteous are always separated from the Unrighteous.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I'll definitely admit it is an area I would like to study more. I have no doubt that when we see Jesus it will be the start of eternity future. 

[Montana Marv]

12 minutes ago, Luther said:

I'll definitely admit it is an area I would like to study more. I have no doubt that when we see Jesus it will be the start of eternity future. 

Yes, the souls of those Believers who have already passed maybe there already just waiting for more Believers to join with them and the marriage supper of the Lamb.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Luther]

16 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Yes, the souls of those Believers who have already passed maybe there already just waiting for more Believers to join with them and the marriage supper of the Lamb.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Revelation 19:9,17-18 KJV
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

[17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; [18] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Marv, What are your thoughts on these verses? Same event? Literal eating of flesh? Pretty wild. 

[truth7t7]

8 hours ago, Alive said:

I do not understand how folks do not admit that on this subject there are many views that honest students of scripture advance. You do not know that it is false teaching just as others cannot say that your position is false.

The point is--this subject matter is not vital to the Gospel message.

It is extremely interesting to some--yes--I have studied this myself in depth and lean toward amillennialism, but I am not certain and so would prefer to say that I am leaning that way rather than couching it in terms of false teaching or not.

If a person told you that Jesus was going to return physically to this earth and sit on a literal throne in Jerusalem, would you believe the person in light of the presented scripture below?

Matthew 24:23-27KJV

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

James 1:8KJV

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

[truth7t7]

8 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

 

For that is how I process eschatology. 

Do the math, One horse and ride occupy approximately 32 sq feet. of space.  How many sq feet in an acre, how many acres in a sq. mile.  How long does it take one to travel 700 miles, approx distance from Euphrates River to Armageddon site.  How many people reside in the area of India.  What percentage of total world land mass does the western hemisphere with New Zealand and Australia occupy.

It might open your eyes up if you knew.

In Christ

Montana Marv

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[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Luther said:

Revelation 19:9,17-18 KJV
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

[17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; [18] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Marv, What are your thoughts on these verses? Same event? Literal eating of flesh? Pretty wild. 

The point is made that the Word of God will triumph over those who will come against him and he called on the fowls to come and have a great feast on the flesh of those who will die on that day.

The point is that his enemies when they die the do not need their bodies anymore. And this is what He has ordained. And He gave their flesh to be food for the fowls. 

Their flesh after they die is good for food for the fowls or for the worms. Whether buried or not their flesh is ordained to be food for the worms or the fowls. Do not expect anything else. The flesh is finished. 

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

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Again, that is part of how I process eschatology.  I look at geography, distances, population densities, travel directions.  All of which you have no idea.

With your vast knowledge of Scripture; Rev 8:7 - ...  A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.  Do you have an idea of this location, it has to be someplace.   or Rev 8:8 - A third of the sea turned to blood. Do you have an idea of this location, it has to be someplace.  I could continue, but you have no idea.  Why are these Seals, Trumpets and Bowl judgments placed in their order. Is there purpose or what is their relevance?

In Christ

Montana Marv