Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

[grahampaul]

1 minute ago, grahampaul said:

 i find what yorclosestfriend has posted to be true to scripture. take another look, its not a fairy tale. in john 14v6 Jesus said" no one can come to the father but by me" .

and when we believers die we go to be with him,

 asleep in christ awaiting the return that is.

[Locust]

35 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Can you challenge with Scripture? 

you haven't given any scripture to challenge 

[Locust]

44 minutes ago, grahampaul said:

and when we believers die we go to be with him,

when we die we do nothing but to become a burden for the living.  the living know the dead have but one hope ,that's to receive a resurrection to live again  to then prove they are worthy to continue to remain living. for many there will be a judgement of death. 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Locust said:

when we die we do nothing but to become a burden for the living.  the living know the dead have but one hope ,that's to receive a resurrection to live again  to then prove they are worthy to continue to remain living. for many there will be a judgement of death. 

Post not from the unbiblical but from the biblical. 

Why the New Testament is not good for you? 

Post from Jesus Christ. 

Believers are in the Life of Jesus Christ. In the ETERNAL LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST. And their inheritance is Heavenly. 

Peter said loud and clear that the Lord told him the time has come to live this earthly tabernacle and go to be with him. 

2 Peter 1:14

Lamsa Bible
Knowing that shortly I must depart this life, even as our LORD Jesus Christ has shown me.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
As I know that the departure from my body is soon, just as our Lord Yeshua The Messiah has informed me.

NT Translations

Anderson New Testament
For I know that the putting off of this my tabernacle is near at hand, even as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me.

Godbey New Testament
knowing that the laying aside of my tabernacle is swift, as our Lord Jesus Christ also showed to me

Edited May 6 by Your closest friendnt

[Locust]

23 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Post not from the unbiblical but from the biblical. 

Why the New Testament is not good for you? 

Post from Jesus Christ. 

Believers are in the Life of Jesus Christ. In the ETERNAL LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST. And their inheritance is Heavenly. 

Peter said loud and clear that the Lord told him the time has come to live this earthly tabernacle and go to be with him. 

2 Peter 1:14

Lamsa Bible
Knowing that shortly I must depart this life, even as our LORD Jesus Christ has shown me.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
As I know that the departure from my body is soon, just as our Lord Yeshua The Messiah has informed me.

NT Translations

Anderson New Testament
For I know that the putting off of this my tabernacle is near at hand, even as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me.

Godbey New Testament
knowing that the laying aside of my tabernacle is swift, as our Lord Jesus Christ also showed to me

just because an apostle of Jesus would be going to heaven does not in any way mean that you would also be going to heaven. three possibilities .

#1 you live on through Armageddon into the Kingdom. be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear 

or

#2 you die and then Resurrected after Armageddon  to live on in to the Kingdom. yet again ,be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear

or

#3 your dead and stay dead because you have taken a stand against the kingdom. in effect saying the beast is good . Armageddon gets you because you have taken a stand  against something Jesus is setting up .

I only see one thing that can be done Revelation 18:4  ''And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.''

she rides the beast telling it which way to go and what to do.  she will loose because the beast has had enough of her . she is false religion that calls it self Christian. she will call for help.

Luke 13:27  ''But he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness!''

 

 

[Locust]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

just because an apostle of Jesus would be going to heaven does not in any way mean that you would also be going to heaven. three possibilities .

#1 you live on through Armageddon into the Kingdom. be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear 

or

#2 you die and then Resurrected after Armageddon  to live on in to the Kingdom. yet again ,be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear

or

#3 your dead and stay dead because you have taken a stand against the kingdom. in effect saying the beast is good . Armageddon gets you because you have taken a stand  against something Jesus is setting up .

I only see one thing that can be done Revelation 18:4  ''And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.''

she rides the beast telling it which way to go and what to do.  she will loose because the beast has had enough of her . she is false religion that calls it self Christian. she will call for help.

Luke 13:27  ''But he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness!''

let me guess ...............you don't like it ?

 

[In1]

(I'm sure this will seem off topic but ...) When Jesus' words are taken in the context of "without" it becomes confusion, and we begin to miss the ever increasing depth of his words in relationship to the stone that is becoming a mountain within us ...

[Your closest friendnt]

11 hours ago, Locust said:

just because an apostle of Jesus would be going to heaven does not in any way mean that you would also be going to heaven. three possibilities .

#1 you live on through Armageddon into the Kingdom. be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear 

or

#2 you die and then Resurrected after Armageddon  to live on in to the Kingdom. yet again ,be careful there is no reason to believe your in the free an clear

or

#3 your dead and stay dead because you have taken a stand against the kingdom. in effect saying the beast is good . Armageddon gets you because you have taken a stand  against something Jesus is setting up .

I only see one thing that can be done Revelation 18:4  ''And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.''

she rides the beast telling it which way to go and what to do.  she will loose because the beast has had enough of her . she is false religion that calls it self Christian. she will call for help.

Luke 13:27  ''But he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness!''

 

 

 

In this passage the Lord said to Peter what is going soon to happen. He told him his Spiritual Man is going to seperate from his body at the time of his death and he will be Heavenly Bound. He did not say anything else and all the other things you have added. Peter didn't say anything that would make any believer think that this is not for him also. There is nothing in Peter's statement to suggest that.

Peter set an example for the believers in Jesus Christ inheritance after the death of their physical body to look only forwards to a life with Jesus Christ without their physical body. If you are a believer in Jesus Christ what happened to Peter will also happen to you. The same for every believer. 

           2 Peter 1:14

Lamsa Bible
Knowing that shortly I must depart this life, even as our LORD Jesus Christ has shown me.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
As I know that the departure from my body is soon, just as our Lord Yeshua The Messiah has informed me.

NT Translations

Anderson New Testament
For I know that the putting off of this my tabernacle is near at hand, even as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me.

Godbey New Testament
knowing that the laying aside of my tabernacle is swift, as our Lord Jesus Christ also showed to me

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, In1 said:

(I'm sure this will seem off topic but ...) When Jesus' words are taken in the context of "without" it becomes confusion, and we begin to miss the ever increasing depth of his words in relationship to the stone that is becoming a mountain within us ...

Please give an example for study. 

[In1]

Jhn 3:3-4,10 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? ...   ... Jesus ansered and saith unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

A word like God has boundless depths to us/all ... an ever increasing truth in us/all ... but it starts for us with one word ... and even Jesus had to come to this reality as part of the plight of mankind ...

Edited May 6 by In1