This always pushes me over the edge spiritually.

[1to3]

3 minutes ago, other one said:

I guess we all get different things from music.  I would think it might depend on our experiences, but it is obvious that you and I are not going to agree on this song.

Do you think there are TWO different kinds of salvation? One for today's Jews and another for today's gentiles?

That today's Jew like the late Leonard Cohen did not need to accept Christ Jesus as his Lord and Savior to return to heaven and be with God ?

What does Christ Jesus say himself?

John 14:66 Jesus saith unto him,I am the way, the truth, and the life:no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. 7 If ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also: and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him.

 

 

 

[FriendofJonathan]

On 3/17/2025 at 11:24 AM, other one said:

 

Awesome.

This was the third rendition of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah I've heard.  All three are beautiful. 

[1to3]

9 minutes ago, FriendofJonathan said:

Awesome.

This was the third rendition of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah I've heard.  All three are beautiful. 

This is Not Leonard Cohen 's Halllelujah, its taking his  original song and changing all the lyrics to a christian theme,keeping only  the music and the word hellelijah intact  just as if someone took Mick Jagger's: can't get not satisfactio0n and replacing most or all the lyrics while keepingthe same music .

If you think there is nothing wrong with that then

You may also perhaps maybe enjoy John Lennon's song Imagine, keeping the musical part as is,with the word Imagine -as is-,  while changing all the rest of the lyrics to a christian theme.

How confusing is that ?

God is not the author of confusion, neither does He promote stealing from Mary to give to Paul.

 

Mark 12:17

Jesus' response is: 'Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God. ' As Christians we cannot cut ourselves off from the affairs of the world, but we should never compromise

Stealing a secular song and changing all the lyrics to a christian theme is compromising our beliefs and values.. 

[FriendofJonathan]

9 hours ago, 1to3 said:

This is Not Leonard Cohen 's Halllelujah, its taking his  original song and changing all the lyrics to a christian theme,keeping only  the music and the word hellelijah intact  just as if someone took Mick Jagger's: can't get not satisfactio0n and replacing most or all the lyrics while keepingthe same music .

If you think there is nothing wrong with that then

You may also perhaps maybe enjoy John Lennon's song Imagine, keeping the musical part as is,with the word Imagine -as is-,  while changing all the rest of the lyrics to a christian theme.

How confusing is that ?

God is not the author of confusion, neither does He promote stealing from Mary to give to Paul.

 

Mark 12:17

Jesus' response is: 'Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God. ' As Christians we cannot cut ourselves off from the affairs of the world, but we should never compromise

Stealing a secular song and changing all the lyrics to a christian theme is compromising our beliefs and values.. 

I love the original lyrics, and I love the two Christian lyrical versions.  You don't?   

[FriendofJonathan]

49 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

You can't reach a non christian  by using secular music

Right. We reach the lost through the gospel message: the word of God. 

53 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

For one you are stealing someone else s original composition to make it christian.

If permission was given for the music with the alternate lyrics, there is no theft. 

If the melody and the lyrics are edifying, praise the Lord. 

[1to3]

 

11 minutes ago, FriendofJonathan said:

If permission was given for the music with the alternate lyrics, there is no theft. 

What proof can you substantiate that permission was given and by whom?

[1to3]

12 minutes ago, FriendofJonathan said:

 

If the melody and the lyrics are edifying, praise the Lord. 

What I took the time to write , don't get.

Goodbye

[FriendofJonathan]

8 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

20 minutes ago, FriendofJonathan said:

If permission was given for the music with the alternate lyrics, there is no theft. 

What proof can you substantiate that permission was given and by whom?

If and when Leonard Cohen's estate sues those two girls and the others responsible for the other lyrics, then I'll know the tune was used without permission. Until then, there is no proof the tune was not permitted. 

[FriendofJonathan]

9 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

What I took the time to write , don't get.

Goodbye

You're in the weeds on this one.  Praise the Lord for your upbringing and your salvation; not many are as privileged to have been surrounded by Christian love growing up. 

[1to3]

59 minutes ago, FriendofJonathan said:

If and when Leonard Cohen's estate sues those two girls and the others responsible for the other lyrics, then I'll know the tune was used without permission. Until then, there is no proof the tune was not permitted. 

From what I have read and understand, the Leonard Cohen's estate has no more rights as Sony has taken over.

It would be Sony that would sue if it decided to.

That is why Paul Mc Cartney was upset when Michael Jackson bought the rights to many of the Beetles songs, and was upset that there original music and lyrics were used and changed for commercial profit disregarding the original artists integrity of the song.

Basically you are saying: until we are caught changing all the words to a famous melody we will keep doing it.

Yea! that's a nice way of sharing who Christ Jesus was and IS and the good examples He shared and lived by and told his disciples to also obey and follow and live by.

NOT