BUSTED - 2 false schemes of interpreting the Apocalypse

[Excalibur]

12 minutes ago, Alive said:

Its interesting that antichrist is either against Christ or in place of…

The Pope’s title “Vicar of Christ” literally means Anti-Christ.  

[Alive]

Actually it means in place of or a substitute for.

[Excalibur]

5 minutes ago, Alive said:

Actually it means in place of or a substitute for.

So does “anti.”

Anti and Vicar are synonymous. 

Edited Thursday at 07:54 PM by Excalibur

[Anne2]

2 hours ago, Excalibur said:

I agree with what you said concerning the antichrist not being restricted to a singular individual.  

“Antichrist” is a category.  This applies equally to the man of sin and all three beasts in the Apocalypse…the latter representing kingdoms or dynasties of men, not individuals (see Daniel).
 

Ironically, your correct statement destroys the foundation of Futurist teaching.  

I wholly agree with this as well. There are times that a particular person is pointed out, but that does not mean the spirit of antichrist does not continue, through others.

[Anne2]

2 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

I wholly agree with this as well. There are times that a particular person is pointed out, but that does not mean the spirit of antichrist does not continue, through others.

I have read somewhere....One of the Popes long before the claim of supremacy over the other bishops, accused a bishop of hinting to the same. This was before the split in the catholic church. He said to consider that kind of supremacy was anti christ.  I can't remember where i read it. It was during a time I was looking into the eastern Orthodox church. My dad was catholic, and always going on about the catholic church being from the beginning. That is why i started looking into it. 

[Alive]

7 minutes ago, Excalibur said:

So does “anti.”

Anti and Vicar are synonymous. 

Antichrist if you look it up in koine Greek means against or opposed to. Vicar has a different meaning.

[Anne2]

4 minutes ago, Alive said:

Antichrist if you look it up in koine Greek means against or opposed to. Vicar has a different meaning.

It can mean "in place of" or "instead of". In a way if you are going to take or stand in the place of another, wouldnt that mean opposition? at least in certain instances?

473 ἀντί anti an-tee’

a primary particle; prep; TDNT-1:372,61; {See TDNT 75}

AV-for 15, because + 3639 4, for  …  cause 1, therefore + 3639 1, in the room of 1; 22

1) over against, opposite to, before
2) for, instead of, in place of (something)
2a) instead of
2b) for
2c) for that, because
2d) wherefore, for this cause 

Edited Thursday at 08:07 PM by Anne2

[Excalibur]

4 minutes ago, Alive said:

Antichrist if you look it up in koine Greek means against or opposed to. Vicar has a different meaning.

Look up ANTI in a lexicon. 

[Anne2]

Just now, Excalibur said:

Look up ANTI in a lexicon. 

I edited my post and gave that.

[Alive]

5 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

It can mean "in place of" or "instead of". In a way if you are going to take or stand in the place of another, wouldnt that mean opposition? at least in certain instances?

473 ἀντί anti an-tee’

a primary particle; prep; TDNT-1:372,61; {See TDNT 75}

AV-for 15, because + 3639 4, for  …  cause 1, therefore + 3639 1, in the room of 1; 22

1) over against, opposite to, before
2) for, instead of, in place of (something)
2a) instead of
2b) for
2c) for that, because
2d) wherefore, for this cause 

That’s what I said..sort of. However I was looking to be accurate and making a distinction.