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Hi brothers and sisters in Christ,

I recently came across a short video that really made me think. It explores a rare astronomical event that took place in September 2017, where a celestial alignment matched the imagery from Revelation 12:1-2:

"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head..."

This specific formation actually appeared in the sky, leading many to wonder:
Could this be a prophetic sign? Did something spiritually significant begin in 2017?

Here’s the short video (just 60 seconds):
🔗 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/--WJ3Vr-PZs

I'd love to hear your thoughts—do you believe this could be a fulfillment of prophecy, or just a coincidence of astronomy?

Blessings,
BeyondnWithin


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Maybe marking the date for the big last wars in the lower heavens (dimensions).


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That’s a really interesting take—definitely aligns with the idea that spiritual battles often precede or parallel physical ones. The “war in heaven” from Revelation 12 could very well mark a turning point in unseen realms that’s only now manifesting in our world. Appreciate your perspective—there’s so much more going on than what we see with the eyes. 🙏👁️

10 hours ago, other one said:

Maybe marking the date for the big last wars in the lower heavens (dimensions).

 


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In response, a long read:

Genesis 1:14 (KJV) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: [emphasis added]. Consider the biblical law of order and first mention. 

It is said that prophetic scripture can only be fully understood after its fulfillment. I maintain that the Book of Revelation is written in chronological order, with parenthetical chapters inserted, and that Revelation 12:1-2 is one of these parenthetical chapters.

Over a dozen biblical prophecies were fulfilled from the founding of Israel in one day (May 14, 1948), and the conclusion of Israel's Six-Day War in 1967. Israel, in general, and Jerusalem, in particular, are God’s prophetic time clock. We have witnessed (this generation) Israel's struggles and God’s hand of protection since the diaspora to the present.

Matthew 24:34 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Are the things Jesus gave a heads up on aligning and coming to pass now at breakneck speed? Since October 7, 2023, tensions and aggression have continued to escalate. We now see the alignments and players never before mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39, Isaiah 17, and Jeremiah 49, along with their triggers.

Anyway, back to the original O.P. Rather than give my thoughts in my own words, I am going to quote a couple of others' commentaries, which I believe are correct, with a few insertions of my own. Possibly related to signs stated in Genesis 1:14, and the nearness of the coming Tribulation. It is crucial to observe that Joseph’s prophetic dream came to pass during the famine of the region, with Jacob and his sons bowing and giving obeisance to Joseph (Gen. 37:5-11). How Joseph’s two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, fit into the Twelve Tribes is interesting and telling.

Revelation Chapters 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 are Parenthetical

Chapter 12:1-17 is parenthetical:

This chapter gives an overview of the entire Bible and prophecies.

NOTE: Revelation 12:2-14:20 is the third account of the Tribulation.

There is no mention here of any part of the seven-sealed book of judgments. The chronological narrative has been set aside for an overview of the reasons behind this great struggle. The principal characters and their relationship to each other are all presented in a figure. How do we know this is a figure when former events are not? Because previously fulfilled Scripture establishes a pattern of literal fulfillment.

We are never left to our own imagination. We need no further personal revelation because the revelation of Scripture is complete. Jacob is the sun. Rachel is the moon (maybe, or Bilhah). The twelve tribes of Israel are the twelve stars (Gen. 37:9-10). The woman with child, travailing in birth, is Israel (Mic 5:3). In v. 6 we will see why it is not Mary. The Church is never called a woman, rather, a bride, a wife, a virgin (2 Cor. 11:2; Rev. 21:9).1

1 Michael Pearl, The Book of Revelation, pg. 45

The sign is “a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.” The question here is, “Who does the sun-clothed woman represent?” ISRAEL

  • The sun is Jacob
  • The moon probably BILHAH Jacob’s first wife
  • Twelve stars are Joseph and his eleven brothers

  The identifying marks of the woman are the sun, moon, and stars. These belong to Israel as seen in Joseph’s dream: “And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?” (Gen. 37:9–10). Old Jacob interpreted the sun, moon, and stars to mean himself, Rachel, and Joseph’s brothers. And they did bow down before Joseph before things were over with (although Rachel had died by that time).

The woman is a sign in heaven, although her career is here in earth. She is not a literal woman; she is a symbol. The career of the woman corresponds to that of Israel, for it is Israel that gave birth to Christ, who is the Child.

At Christmastime we all use Isaiah 9:6 and other verses concerning the birth of Christ. This verse does concern the birth of Christ, but it does not concern us at all; rather, it concerns the nation Israel. “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isa. 9:6). Who is referred to here when Isaiah says, “Unto us”? The church? No; it’s the nation Israel. It is quite obvious that Isaiah is speaking to the nation Israel, and he is speaking not relative to a Savior but to a Governor, a Ruler, a King, One who was to come and rule over them. “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given.” It is interesting that as a child He was born in His humanity; but as a Son from eternity, He was given. “And the government shall be upon his shoulder”—we are not talking now about the Savior but about the One who is coming as King. We will see that happen in the Book of Revelation. “And his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” There will not be any peace until He comes. When the rulers of this world say, “… Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them …” (1 Thess. 5:3).

The writer to the Hebrews says, “For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda …” (Heb. 7:14). Paul writes in Romans: “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen” (Rom. 9:4–5). Paul is talking about Israel. He begins by asking the question: “Who are Israelites?” The answer just happens to be: “And of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came.” The woman at the well was accurate when she identified the Lord Jesus as a Jew: “… How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? …” (John 4:9, italics mine). We read in Micah 5:2–3: “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler of Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.” Notice that He will be born in Bethlehem, but He comes out of eternity.

“Travailing in birth” is a figure associated with Israel: “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children” (Isa. 66:7–8). [Dennis note: Israel was born in a single day, May 14, 1948, by declaration of the United Nations]. Israel will go through the Great Tribulation after Christ was born in Bethlehem—“before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child,” meaning Christ.

Therefore, we identify the woman as the nation Israel. No one woman who has ever lived, including the virgin mary, fits into this. It is the nation Israel and certainly not the church of all ages. If we just keep our bearings here and not lose our heads, we know that this is the Great Tribulation period and that the church has already gone to heaven. This woman is not the church of all ages.

“Being tormented.” Certainly Israel has suffered satanic anti–Semitism from the time of the birth of Christ to the present, in fact, even since before that day, because Satan knew that Christ would come from this nation. 1

1 McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Prophecy (Revelation 6-13) (electronic ed., Vol. 59, pp. 145–148). Thomas Nelson.

A. The Woman.

Some students want us to believe that this is Mary, the mother of our Lord, but vv. 6 and 13–17 make this impossible. Genesis 37:9 indicates that the woman represents the nation of Israel. Verse 5 informs us that the woman gives birth to Christ, and this symbolism points again to Israel (Rom. 1:3; 9:4–5). In the OT, Israel is pictured as a woman and mother (Isa. 54:5; Jer. 3:6–10). The woman is in travail, and the Child that is born is Christ (v. 5 with Ps. 2:9; Micah 5:2–3; Rev. 19:14ff). There is a gap of at least thirty-three years between the first and second sentences in v. 5, and between vv. 5 and 6 we have the entire church age.

B. The Dragon.

This is Satan (v. 9); and the heads, horns, and crowns refer us to 13:1 and 17:3, where the Beast (Antichrist) is described. Please keep in mind that the Beast is present from the outset as the leader of the federated nations of Europe, but he will not openly be revealed as Satan’s “superman” until the middle of the Tribulation period. Verse 4 relates to Isa. 14:12ff, when Satan revolted against God and drew some of the angels down with him. See Job 38:7 and Jude 6.

Satan has always been a murderer (John 8:44), and now he seeks to destroy Christ. During OT days, Satan did all he could to keep the Savior from being born; when Jesus was born, Satan tried to kill Him (Matt. 2:16ff). During His earthly life, Christ was attacked by Satan in various ways, culminating in the cross. Satan also attacks the Jews. The 144,000 will be protected because they are sealed by God, but the other Jews will also be cared for by God. Perhaps the “they” in v. 6 refers to the Gentiles who care for the Jews at that time (Matt. 25:31–46).1

1 Wiersbe, Warren W. Wiersbe’s Expository Outlines on the New Testament. Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1992. Print.

 

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6 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

In response, a long read:

Genesis 1:14 (KJV) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: [emphasis added]. Consider the biblical law of order and first mention. 

It is said that prophetic scripture can only be fully understood after its fulfillment. I maintain that the Book of Revelation is written in chronological order, with parenthetical chapters inserted, and that Revelation 12:1-2 is one of these parenthetical chapters.

Over a dozen biblical prophecies were fulfilled from the founding of Israel in one day (May 14, 1948), and the conclusion of Israel's Six-Day War in 1967. Israel, in general, and Jerusalem, in particular, are God’s prophetic time clock. We have witnessed (this generation) Israel's struggles and God’s hand of protection since the diaspora to the present.

Matthew 24:34 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Are the things Jesus gave a heads up on aligning and coming to pass now at breakneck speed? Since October 7, 2023, tensions and aggression have continued to escalate. We now see the alignments and players never before mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39, Isaiah 17, and Jeremiah 49, along with their triggers.

Anyway, back to the original O.P. Rather than give my thoughts in my own words, I am going to quote a couple of others' commentaries, which I believe are correct, with a few insertions of my own. Possibly related to signs stated in Genesis 1:14, and the nearness of the coming Tribulation. It is crucial to observe that Joseph’s prophetic dream came to pass during the famine of the region, with Jacob and his sons bowing and giving obeisance to Joseph (Gen. 37:5-11). How Joseph’s two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, fit into the Twelve Tribes is interesting and telling.

Revelation Chapters 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 are Parenthetical

Chapter 12:1-17 is parenthetical:

This chapter gives an overview of the entire Bible and prophecies.

NOTE: Revelation 12:2-14:20 is the third account of the Tribulation.

There is no mention here of any part of the seven-sealed book of judgments. The chronological narrative has been set aside for an overview of the reasons behind this great struggle. The principal characters and their relationship to each other are all presented in a figure. How do we know this is a figure when former events are not? Because previously fulfilled Scripture establishes a pattern of literal fulfillment.

We are never left to our own imagination. We need no further personal revelation because the revelation of Scripture is complete. Jacob is the sun. Rachel is the moon (maybe, or Bilhah). The twelve tribes of Israel are the twelve stars (Gen. 37:9-10). The woman with child, travailing in birth, is Israel (Mic 5:3). In v. 6 we will see why it is not Mary. The Church is never called a woman, rather, a bride, a wife, a virgin (2 Cor. 11:2; Rev. 21:9).1

1 Michael Pearl, The Book of Revelation, pg. 45

The sign is “a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.” The question here is, “Who does the sun-clothed woman represent?” ISRAEL

  • The sun is Jacob
  • The moon probably BILHAH Jacob’s first wife
  • Twelve stars are Joseph and his eleven brothers

  The identifying marks of the woman are the sun, moon, and stars. These belong to Israel as seen in Joseph’s dream: “And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?” (Gen. 37:9–10). Old Jacob interpreted the sun, moon, and stars to mean himself, Rachel, and Joseph’s brothers. And they did bow down before Joseph before things were over with (although Rachel had died by that time).

The woman is a sign in heaven, although her career is here in earth. She is not a literal woman; she is a symbol. The career of the woman corresponds to that of Israel, for it is Israel that gave birth to Christ, who is the Child.

At Christmastime we all use Isaiah 9:6 and other verses concerning the birth of Christ. This verse does concern the birth of Christ, but it does not concern us at all; rather, it concerns the nation Israel. “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isa. 9:6). Who is referred to here when Isaiah says, “Unto us”? The church? No; it’s the nation Israel. It is quite obvious that Isaiah is speaking to the nation Israel, and he is speaking not relative to a Savior but to a Governor, a Ruler, a King, One who was to come and rule over them. “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given.” It is interesting that as a child He was born in His humanity; but as a Son from eternity, He was given. “And the government shall be upon his shoulder”—we are not talking now about the Savior but about the One who is coming as King. We will see that happen in the Book of Revelation. “And his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” There will not be any peace until He comes. When the rulers of this world say, “… Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them …” (1 Thess. 5:3).

The writer to the Hebrews says, “For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda …” (Heb. 7:14). Paul writes in Romans: “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen” (Rom. 9:4–5). Paul is talking about Israel. He begins by asking the question: “Who are Israelites?” The answer just happens to be: “And of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came.” The woman at the well was accurate when she identified the Lord Jesus as a Jew: “… How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? …” (John 4:9, italics mine). We read in Micah 5:2–3: “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler of Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.” Notice that He will be born in Bethlehem, but He comes out of eternity.

“Travailing in birth” is a figure associated with Israel: “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children” (Isa. 66:7–8). [Dennis note: Israel was born in a single day, May 14, 1948, by declaration of the United Nations]. Israel will go through the Great Tribulation after Christ was born in Bethlehem—“before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child,” meaning Christ.

Therefore, we identify the woman as the nation Israel. No one woman who has ever lived, including the virgin mary, fits into this. It is the nation Israel and certainly not the church of all ages. If we just keep our bearings here and not lose our heads, we know that this is the Great Tribulation period and that the church has already gone to heaven. This woman is not the church of all ages.

“Being tormented.” Certainly Israel has suffered satanic anti–Semitism from the time of the birth of Christ to the present, in fact, even since before that day, because Satan knew that Christ would come from this nation. 1

1 McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Prophecy (Revelation 6-13) (electronic ed., Vol. 59, pp. 145–148). Thomas Nelson.

A. The Woman.

Some students want us to believe that this is Mary, the mother of our Lord, but vv. 6 and 13–17 make this impossible. Genesis 37:9 indicates that the woman represents the nation of Israel. Verse 5 informs us that the woman gives birth to Christ, and this symbolism points again to Israel (Rom. 1:3; 9:4–5). In the OT, Israel is pictured as a woman and mother (Isa. 54:5; Jer. 3:6–10). The woman is in travail, and the Child that is born is Christ (v. 5 with Ps. 2:9; Micah 5:2–3; Rev. 19:14ff). There is a gap of at least thirty-three years between the first and second sentences in v. 5, and between vv. 5 and 6 we have the entire church age.

B. The Dragon.

This is Satan (v. 9); and the heads, horns, and crowns refer us to 13:1 and 17:3, where the Beast (Antichrist) is described. Please keep in mind that the Beast is present from the outset as the leader of the federated nations of Europe, but he will not openly be revealed as Satan’s “superman” until the middle of the Tribulation period. Verse 4 relates to Isa. 14:12ff, when Satan revolted against God and drew some of the angels down with him. See Job 38:7 and Jude 6.

Satan has always been a murderer (John 8:44), and now he seeks to destroy Christ. During OT days, Satan did all he could to keep the Savior from being born; when Jesus was born, Satan tried to kill Him (Matt. 2:16ff). During His earthly life, Christ was attacked by Satan in various ways, culminating in the cross. Satan also attacks the Jews. The 144,000 will be protected because they are sealed by God, but the other Jews will also be cared for by God. Perhaps the “they” in v. 6 refers to the Gentiles who care for the Jews at that time (Matt. 25:31–46).1

1 Wiersbe, Warren W. Wiersbe’s Expository Outlines on the New Testament. Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1992. Print.

 

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and comprehensive response. I truly appreciate the time and care you took to explain the broader theological and prophetic context of Revelation 12, especially the strong scriptural case for interpreting the woman as Israel rather than the Church or Mary.

I agree with the interpretive framework that Revelation 12 is symbolic and parenthetical, offering an overarching view of Israel’s role in God’s redemptive plan, particularly in relation to Christ's birth, Satan’s opposition, and the coming Tribulation. The references to Genesis 37 and Isaiah 66 were especially helpful.

That said, I wonder—and this is where my original question came from—if the astronomical alignment in September 2017 could still serve as a secondary sign or “pointer” in light of Genesis 1:14, where God says the heavenly bodies are for “signs and seasons.”

Even if Revelation 12 is not a direct prophecy of a literal constellation, could the 2017 sign be a way God is alerting our generation to the nearness of end-times events—especially when considered alongside recent escalations in the Middle East, as you mentioned?

I'm not asserting dogmatically that 2017 was the start of something major—but I do think it’s worth watching, praying about, and discerning. At the very least, it seems to have stirred many to study prophecy more deeply.

Blessings in Christ,
BeyondnWithin


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On 6/28/2025 at 7:11 AM, BeyondWithin1 said:

I'd love to hear your thoughts—do you believe this could be a fulfillment of prophecy, or just a coincidence of astronomy?

According to the AI archives:

That date—September 23, 2017—sparked a wave of speculation in prophetic circles, especially among those watching the skies for signs. The buzz centered around a rare astronomical alignment that many believed mirrored the imagery in Revelation 12:1–2:

“A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.”

Here’s what made the 2017 alignment so compelling to some:

🌌 Astronomical Configuration

  • The constellation Virgo (the Virgin) appeared “clothed with the sun,” with the moon at her feet.
  • The planet Jupiter (often symbolizing the “king” or “man-child”) had spent about 42 weeks in Virgo’s “womb” due to retrograde motion—roughly the length of human gestation.
  • Above Virgo’s head were nine stars of Leo, plus Mercury, Mars, and Venus, forming a “crown” of twelve.

🔭 Interpretive Layers

  • Some saw this as a literal fulfillment of Revelation 12, suggesting it marked the beginning of the end times or the rapture.
  • Others, including many theologians and astronomers, viewed it as symbolic or coincidental, noting that similar alignments have occurred before and that Revelation 12 may refer to past events—such as Christ’s birth or the early church’s persecution.

🧭 Where it stands now
No cataclysmic or prophetic event occurred on that day, but it did reignite interest in celestial signs, biblical symbolism, and the watchfulness encouraged in eschatological texts. For many, it served as a spiritual wake-up call rather than a definitive fulfillment.


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18 hours ago, BeyondWithin1 said:

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and comprehensive response. I truly appreciate the time and care you took to explain the broader theological and prophetic context of Revelation 12, especially the strong scriptural case for interpreting the woman as Israel rather than the Church or Mary.

I agree with the interpretive framework that Revelation 12 is symbolic and parenthetical, offering an overarching view of Israel’s role in God’s redemptive plan, particularly in relation to Christ's birth, Satan’s opposition, and the coming Tribulation. The references to Genesis 37 and Isaiah 66 were especially helpful.

That said, I wonder—and this is where my original question came from—if the astronomical alignment in September 2017 could still serve as a secondary sign or “pointer” in light of Genesis 1:14, where God says the heavenly bodies are for “signs and seasons.”

Even if Revelation 12 is not a direct prophecy of a literal constellation, could the 2017 sign be a way God is alerting our generation to the nearness of end-times events—especially when considered alongside recent escalations in the Middle East, as you mentioned?

I'm not asserting dogmatically that 2017 was the start of something major—but I do think it’s worth watching, praying about, and discerning. At the very least, it seems to have stirred many to study prophecy more deeply.

Blessings in Christ,
BeyondnWithin

The topic of "signs" is interesting to discuss. The Jews always required a sign from God to be believed and accepted, whereas we receive it by faith. I hope I refrain from getting long-winded again; the following is my thought process.

I think this is the ultimate sign:

Matthew 24:3 (KJV) And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Isaiah chapters 42 and 45 have a great deal to say about the heavens, as do Job 9:9, 38:31-32, and Amos 5:8.

Psalm 19:1 (KJV) A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. [Heavens – celestial bodies (2nd heaven), Firmament – sky (atmosphere-first heaven).

I cannot prove it, but I suspect the heavens once told the story of creation, the Gospel message, or both, and was perverted by the influence of the devil. Throughout antiquity, the constellations, stars, and planets became worshipped instead of the One True Living God.

Today, as well as in the past, people consult their horoscopes. It is interesting to note Nancy Regan's use of horoscopes in directing President Ronald Regan's daily political affairs and activities.

2 Chronicles 33:6 (KJV) And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. [Emphasis added]

Witchcraft ~ sorcery, magic - H. kāšap, G. mageuō.

The Bible mentions several zodiacal constellations and signs, Pleiades, Orion, Arcturus, and Mazzaroth.

Genesis 2:4 (KJV) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

I believe we can call a "sign" an advanced warning, a caution, or something that is about to occur prophetically.

Luke 21:26 (KJV) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

The powers of heaven being shaken indicate that whatever this is, is coming from above the earth. Revelation 6:13 and other scriptures reveal that an asteroid(s) will impact the world. Today, if scientific astronomy can detect, project, and calculate the potential impact of a celestial body, could we consider that a biblical sign?

Suppose NASA and governments knew with relative certainty of an impending impact. Would they wait until they could hide it no longer, to prevent chaos, rioting, economic collapse, civil disorder, and other similar consequences?

I am not aping Chicken Little here, but, for numerous reasons not going into detail, I find the asteroid Apophis fascinating, perhaps a prophetic sign. I am not dogmatic on any of this, but I am watching as scripture unfolds in our time.


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IMHO:

There was a blood moon, as viewed from Jerusalem, when Jesus died (Mark 15:33).

There will be a similar blood moon, as viewed from Jerusalem, at the return of Jesus (Acts 2:20). No blood moon, no return.

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