Death Penalty

[mikado5001]

This in a country that just executed it's 1000 inmate. Since LEGALIZED MURDER was re-instated. By killing others, wether by the hand of the so-called authorities. Or by the criminals that roam the Earth. We are just as bad and evil as the ones who kill first.

And while I acknowledge that our faith is based on what happened after an execution. Certainly we can put aside our revenge tendencies and live in peace.

[heavenlyfavoured]

This in a country that just executed it's 1000 inmate. Since LEGALIZED MURDER was re-instated. By killing others, wether by the hand of the so-called authorities. Or by the criminals that roam the Earth. We are just as bad and evil as the ones who kill first.

And while I acknowledge that our faith is based on what happened after an execution. Certainly we can put aside our revenge tendencies and live in peace.

Hi,

R u 4 forgiveness or execution?

God bless!!!

[Ovedya]

I do not believe Williams knows YAHSHUA.

He is among the most feared inmates in San Quentin. Although restricted to death row, he weilds a big hammer.

My take is forgive him.

Scripture over rides Gov"t. My humble opinion.

So then, it's righteous to forgive a man who murdered four people? We should just tell him, "Okay, we all forgive you for taking the lives of four people and ruining the lives of his family and friends. Here's a few bucks to get you back on your feet. Have a great life."

What about justice?

[Ovedya]

As I stated in one of the 1,000 topics we have about Tookie:

Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man.

It's called justice. If we use the passage refering to the adulterous woman then we could not condemn anyone or send anyone to prison. That passage is refering to actions within the church. The role of the government is to deliver justice, not grace.

Hi,

So ur saying that the church and the goverment r 2 different parties. When our Lord spoke to man; he was not only talking 2 man in church but man in the whole earth.

Well, we r not suggesting that they should not convict the man 4 the death crimes but we r saying that the death penalty is abit 2 strong. As in they can sentence him, but not to death.

Who r we mare men 2 convict another brother.

Let me ask you something. By what authority did this man have to take the lives of four others? Who was he to judge whether the persons he killed had the right to live or die>

[Ovedya]

This in a country that just executed it's 1000 inmate. Since LEGALIZED MURDER was re-instated. By killing others, wether by the hand of the so-called authorities. Or by the criminals that roam the Earth. We are just as bad and evil as the ones who kill first.

And while I acknowledge that our faith is based on what happened after an execution. Certainly we can put aside our revenge tendencies and live in peace.

The death penalty is not revenge. It is a punishment befitting of the crime.

And peace will never be truly known until the man of peace established His kingdom on the earth.

[heavenlyfavoured]

I do not believe Williams knows YAHSHUA.

He is among the most feared inmates in San Quentin. Although restricted to death row, he weilds a big hammer.

My take is forgive him.

Scripture over rides Gov"t. My humble opinion.

So then, it's righteous to forgive a man who murdered four people? We should just tell him, "Okay, we all forgive you for taking the lives of four people and ruining the lives of his family and friends. Here's a few bucks to get you back on your feet. Have a great life."

What about justice?

Hi,

Did u read what i just posted 45 minutes b4 or did u just over look it.

I suggested that death penalty is 2 high, mayb sentensing a long period of time would do. And by the way if u dont feel sorry 4 this guy that he'll go 2 hell 4 his sins b4 repenting, then mayb u need a heart of compassion because if our Lord had compassion, if u claim 2 b a believer and His follower, then may i ask, where is ur compassion?

Edited December 3, 2005 by heavenlyfavoured

[mrcorey]

Personally, I am for the death penalty. I base my opinion on God's word. All throughout the Old Testament people were put to death. In the new testament Romans 13:1-7 says basically that we are to abide by the law of the land. If we do this, we have no fear of authority. "For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil."

As has already been said in a few posts, if this guy has truly repented then he will go straight to heaven. What's wrong with that? And if he did'nt really repent, then he will go directly to hell which he would be going there anyway {if he didn't repent}.

Here in Massachusetts we do not have the death penalty. But every time it comes up for a vote, I vote for it. Obviously, one of the most liberal states in the Union, the death penatly will never become law.

in Him;

corey

[Ovedya]

I do not believe Williams knows YAHSHUA.

He is among the most feared inmates in San Quentin. Although restricted to death row, he weilds a big hammer.

My take is forgive him.

Scripture over rides Gov"t. My humble opinion.

So then, it's righteous to forgive a man who murdered four people? We should just tell him, "Okay, we all forgive you for taking the lives of four people and ruining the lives of his family and friends. Here's a few bucks to get you back on your feet. Have a great life."

What about justice?

Hi,

Did u read what i just posted 45 minutes b4 or did u just over look it.

I suggested that death penalty is 2 high, mayb sentensing a long period of time would do. And by the way if u dont feel sorry 4 this guy that he'll go 2 hell 4 his sins b4 repenting, then mayb u need a heart of compasion because if our Lord had compation, if u claim 2 b a believer and His follower, then may i ask, where is ur compasion?

Well to begin with, my response was to Avidan.

Secondly, no, I do not feel sorry for him. Why should I feel sorrow and compassion for a man who murdered four people in cold blood? Why should I feel sorry for a man who co-founded the strongest, most brutal, and most criminal organization that the county of Los Angeles has ever known? To me that's like asking if I feel sorrow or compassion for Hitler.

[heavenlyfavoured]

As I stated in one of the 1,000 topics we have about Tookie:

Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man.

It's called justice. If we use the passage refering to the adulterous woman then we could not condemn anyone or send anyone to prison. That passage is refering to actions within the church. The role of the government is to deliver justice, not grace.

Hi,

So ur saying that the church and the goverment r 2 different parties. When our Lord spoke to man; he was not only talking 2 man in church but man in the whole earth.

Well, we r not suggesting that they should not convict the man 4 the death crimes but we r saying that the death penalty is abit 2 strong. As in they can sentence him, but not to death.

Who r we mare men 2 convict another brother.

Let me ask you something. By what authority did this man have to take the lives of four others? Who was he to judge whether the persons he killed had the right to live or die>

Hi,

The man is a non believer. He does or did not have the compassion. But we Christians r the ones Jesus was talking 2. We r to show the world love like Christ would or then we would only end up being hearers and not doers of the word.

[Ovedya]

Okay, now where in the Bible does it specifically state that we should forgive a murderer and set him free?