Rocket barrage 'if Sharon dies'

[amor]

Amor -

Instead of going in the same circles all over again, I have a question for you:

"I am ready with my candies and my rockets and praying to Allah that Sharon dies. We have prepared a celebratory barrage of rockets ready to fire into Israel on the occasion of the death of our enemy," said Abu Abir, spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees, an umbrella group of Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists responsible for firing hundreds of Qassam rockets and mortars at Jewish towns.

What is your opiion on this statement? Are you OK with this?

No, but I'd have been happy to see Sharon face justice for his past crimes in Sabra and Shattila. Furtheremore since their are plenty of headbanger settlers, and their supprters, who are saying much the same about Sharon, because of his evacuation of the Gaza settlements, why focus only on Palestinian hatred of the man.

[amor]

A sad state of affairs indeed. I am saddened by the prime ministers condition. It is equaly disturbing that there are those that would consider attacks on Israel as a form of celebration. As some of you have said, why would they celebrate the death of the man who has pushed to get them some of their supposed land back? Its like giving a steak to a rabid dog, he may eat the steak and leave you alone, but when he is done eating its back to foaming at the mouth and biting everyone in site.

Because he is a man who played a central part in stealing their land, and murdering their people in the first place. As to supposed land, well it's the land they and their ancestors lived on before they were disposesed, so their claim is probably as good as yours to American soil.

[Guest shiloh357]

How can you be so heartless?

Should we just kill them all then? Innocent as well as guilty? Or maybe just leave them to rot as so many seem to think. Cause thats so Christian. What happened to love thine enemy? Much less people trapped between fanatics and countries on all sides that dont want them.

How can some of you dismiss an entire group of people so callously. Especially when there are bretheren in those refugee camps as well? These statements are utterly heartless.

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Heartless???? What a pile of tripe. Who, on this board, is calling for the death of all of the Palestinians? Who is calling for their extermination? It is in Palestinian mosques that sit on Israeli soil where the call for extermination of every Jew in the world is called for. It is in those mosques that Jews are equated with apes and pigs.

In Palestinian schools the curriculum teaches that Jews are the most useless and worthless pieces of human flesh. Jews are demonized as monsters, pigs and monkeys. Palestinian children are taught from the womb that there is no greater ambition than to kill Jews.

It is the Jews who have made sure that the Palestinians have jobs, free healthcare, clean water, welfare, social security, etc. How are they repayed? They are repayed for their kindness with more dead Jews laying in the street. Israel saved many Palestinian children from dying of preventable childhood diseases, and they are payed by having their own Jewish children shredded by pipe bombs or murdered by Palestinian snipers.

You worry about us dismissing them as a group? They dismiss Israel "as a group" and call for the destruction of Israel and the extermination of every Jew in world. They make no distinction. There are no peace loving Palestinians holding rallies in support of Israel. There are no mosques where Israel is supported. There is nothing but contempt and hatred for Jews in the Palestinian controlled areas.

[Guest shiloh357]

A sad state of affairs indeed. I am saddened by the prime ministers condition. It is equaly disturbing that there are those that would consider attacks on Israel as a form of celebration. As some of you have said, why would they celebrate the death of the man who has pushed to get them some of their supposed land back? Its like giving a steak to a rabid dog, he may eat the steak and leave you alone, but when he is done eating its back to foaming at the mouth and biting everyone in site.

Because he is a man who played a central part in stealing their land, and murdering their people in the first place. As to supposed land, well it's the land they and their ancestors lived on before they were disposesed, so their claim is probably as good as yours to American soil.

You are the most misinformed and historically illliterate person on this board when it comes to this conflict. No thinking person can buy into your nonsense. Most of the "history" you spew has already been debunked anyway.

[amor]

A sad state of affairs indeed. I am saddened by the prime ministers condition. It is equaly disturbing that there are those that would consider attacks on Israel as a form of celebration. As some of you have said, why would they celebrate the death of the man who has pushed to get them some of their supposed land back? Its like giving a steak to a rabid dog, he may eat the steak and leave you alone, but when he is done eating its back to foaming at the mouth and biting everyone in site.

Because he is a man who played a central part in stealing their land, and murdering their people in the first place. As to supposed land, well it's the land they and their ancestors lived on before they were disposesed, so their claim is probably as good as yours to American soil.

You are the most misinformed and historically illliterate person on this board when it comes to this conflict. No thinking person can buy into your nonsense. Most of the "history" you spew has already been debunked anyway.

West bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem under Israeli - fact.

Those occupied territories have a Palestinian majority - fact

Palestinian owned land expropriated (stolen) by the Israeli state in both the occupied territories and Israel itself - fact.

Sharon held responsible by an Israeli inquiry for the massacres at Sabra and Shattila - fact.

[Guest yod]

you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face, amor.

[Guest shiloh357]

Palestinian owned land expropriated (stolen) by the Israeli state in both the occupied territories and Israel itself - fact.

Complete fiction, most of which you believe from Morris and Finkelstein both of who are not credible scholars of Israeli history.

The truth is that the Palestinians gave up their Land even though Israel begged them not to leave in 1948. I can and have quoted Arab sources from the time period that prove that.

As for the West Bank and Gaza... Israel legally took control of that Land according to the international rules of war, when they were attacked from those territories by Egypt and Jordan. Israel repelled the invasion and legally took control of those territories from Jordan and Egypt (not from the Palestinians) in order to prevent further attacks from those regions.

Again, you don't know your history or anything even close to fact regarding this conflict. Try to learn something.

Sharon held responsible by an Israeli inquiry for the massacres at Sabra and Shattila - fact.

Sharon was held indirectly responsible, and it was Jews, not Arabs who protested what happened there. It was Christian Phalangists who committed the atrocity. Of course, people like you always find it more convenient to blame the Jews whenever possible. We're a pretty convenient scapegoat where your kind is concerned.

[O'Dannyboy]

Because he is a man who played a central part in stealing their land, and murdering their people in the first place.

Wrong friend. Though their ancestors did live there during the absense of the Jews, that does not make it their land. I suppose once you leave your house to go to work its open season for whoever gets their first. The land of canaan was promised to the Jews and God has kept his promise.

As to supposed land, well it's the land they and their ancestors lived on before they were disposesed,

Technically they were not evicted or disposessed as you put it. The Jews (zionists) moved back to the territory known as Palestine and lived among the people seemingly peacefully. As the Jews flourished they would hire the Arabs to do work for them. The Arabs increased in number in accordance to the amount of work available. The day came when Israel became a nation in the eyes of the most influential countries, which in turn kicked off the 6 day war. Even after that war the arabs were not pushed away, but rather, they gathered together into communities and lived in relative harmony with the jews untill the day came when someone who hated jews declairs a holy war on Jews for their land based on corrupted teaching of history and tied it to Islam (which is also corrupt teaching).

so their claim is probably as good as yours to American soil.

Their claim to Israel is unquestionable in my eyes. Our claim to North American soil is not so historical, but history shows that if our ancestors hadn't colonised America someone surely would have. I understand the American Indians got a raw deal, but it pales in comparison to what the Jews have had to endure.

[O'Dannyboy]

Here is a really interesting web site for those who ARE interested in the facts.

Palestinefacts.org

[amor]

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Sharon was held indirectly responsible, and it was Jews, not Arabs who protested what happened there. It was Christian Phalangists who committed the atrocity. Of course, people like you always find it more convenient to blame the Jews whenever possible. We're a pretty convenient scapegoat where your kind is concerned.

Direct or indirect he is still as you acknowledge responsible. Saying that Sharon has blood on his hands is not an attack on all Jews it is a comment on one cynical, corrupt, unpleasant, and pragmatic politician.

Incidently I see on another thread that Pat Robertson, not a great suporter of justice for the Palestinian people, has also put his boot into Sharon.