Is this important or am I overreacting?

[st. Worm]

Whoops! I posted something here intended for another thread and have moved it over there.

Edited January 17, 2006 by st. Worm

[Kabowd]

Why should women NOT be Pastors?

Mikado, Paul lays out the ministry of women in Titus. Actually, he speaks of the ministries of both men and women in Titus. You might find it an interesting read. Women are called to be nurturers of their families and "workers at home", a special blessing and ministry that only they can do.

Might want to start a new topic on the whole women pastor thing

[KatieK]

Hey everyone,

Thanks fro your replys. Leaving my church is out of the question. As nebula mentioned I'm 14. My parents aren't Christians but they go to church, one sunday I didn't sit with them and my dad flipped out and took it as a personal insult. No I'm pretty well stuck.

In any case if I could leave I wouldn't. This an assositate pastor not the senior one and she rarely preaches, both other pastors are men for those of you who where worried. I think may other pastors are saved because their sermons NEVER conflict with scripture but represent it very powerfully and I've heard some of their life storys which demonstrate real love and faith in Jesus Christ. I've heard both the the other pastors preach very strongly that Jesus is the only way. The youth pastor (a guy) is great. I know he's really saved. A lot of the congregation I know are saved. I'm pretty sure next to no one went to the inter-faith thing.

It might interest you to know one of the staff of the inter-faith organization comes to our church. I think it possible that she pretty much demanded someone form her church be there. That by no means excuses my pastors response but it makes me feel better that no one in the church sought out involvement.

My other Pastors preach the truth of salvation through Christ very strongly every week. I doubt you could find either of them at fault for there preaching. This is a personal problem of the one pastor not something spread through out the church. As I already stated I'm stuck anyway.

As for the congregation, the truly saved people in the congregation are just that really saved. From what they say and believe to how they live their lives. Most churches are open door so lots of unsaved people come in for tradition or as seekers or whatever they are mixed in to our congregation to. No new age mash-the-religions-toegather nonsense has ever come from our pulpit. Why there was an uproar when one pastor used the word 'freaking' in the sentence 'Americans are so freaking impatient!' i didn't even think freakin was a bad word. If anything but Jesus was ever preached we'd have an all out revolt. This is a very specific case not a church wide problem.

I intend to talk to my pastor face to face and confront her about this. I had previously only emailed back and forth which could account for some (granted not much) but some misunderstanding. Who knows maybe she'll turn around. Maybe she already has, it's been a while. Because angles4u asked it's a united methodist church. I think I may look into what other religions say about Christ as was suggested and make sure she knows. I've heard little bits and most of it really makes me sick! The pastor in question seems saved because when she does preach (a rarity) it seems biblical and she is always so .......Happy Joyful as if filled with the joy of the spirit. even after her mom died she had that joy and said she got it from leaning on God's strength. Before the church she has always preached Jesus. thanks for your concern.

Love in Christ,

Katie

[larryt]

Hey everyone,

Thanks fro your replys. Leaving my church is out of the question. As nebula mentioned I'm 14. My parents aren't Christians but they go to church, one sunday I didn't sit with them and my dad flipped out and took it as a personal insult. No I'm pretty well stuck.

In any case if I could leave I wouldn't. This an assositate pastor not the senior one and she rarely preaches, both other pastors are men for those of you who where worried. I think may other pastors are saved because their sermons NEVER conflict with scripture but represent it very powerfully and I've heard some of their life storys which demonstrate real love and faith in Jesus Christ. I've heard both the the other pastors preach very strongly that Jesus is the only way. The youth pastor (a guy) is great. I know he's really saved. A lot of the congregation I know are saved. I'm pretty sure next to no one went to the inter-faith thing.

It might interest you to know one of the staff of the inter-faith organization comes to our church. I think it possible that she pretty much demanded someone form her church be there. That by no means excuses my pastors response but it makes me feel better that no one in the church sought out involvement.

My other Pastors preach the truth of salvation through Christ very strongly every week. I doubt you could find either of them at fault for there preaching. This is a personal problem of the one pastor not something spread through out the church. As I already stated I'm stuck anyway.

As for the congregation, the truly saved people in the congregation are just that really saved. From what they say and believe to how they live their lives. Most churches are open door so lots of unsaved people come in for tradition or as seekers or whatever they are mixed in to our congregation to. No new age mash-the-religions-toegather nonsense has ever come from our pulpit. Why there was an uproar when one pastor used the word 'freaking' in the sentence 'Americans are so freaking impatient!' i didn't even think freakin was a bad word. If anything but Jesus was ever preached we'd have an all out revolt. This is a very specific case not a church wide problem.

I intend to talk to my pastor face to face and confront her about this. I had previously only emailed back and forth which could account for some (granted not much) but some misunderstanding. Who knows maybe she'll turn around. Maybe she already has, it's been a while. Because angles4u asked it's a united methodist church. I think I may look into what other religions say about Christ as was suggested and make sure she knows. I've heard little bits and most of it really makes me sick! The pastor in question seems saved because when she does preach (a rarity) it seems biblical and she is always so .......Happy Joyful as if filled with the joy of the spirit. even after her mom died she had that joy and said she got it from leaning on God's strength. Before the church she has always preached Jesus. thanks for your concern.

Love in Christ,

Katie

Well Katie,

It looks like God wants you to stay where you are at for the time being. It might be a challenge but you might be able to show your parents what the bible says about all that you encounter in the church.

May I suggest that you ask your dad to explain passages in the bible that are being violated. You don't necessarily have to point out the violation, just ask questions. It may be that he will see the truth and come to know the Lord. Personally given your situation and age I don't think I would advise confronting the pastorette.

Trust the Holy Spirit to guide you in the truth and pray that God would use you. I will too.

Lord I ask that you give Katie the spirit of wisdom, knowledge, understanding, power, might, and counsel, and the fear of the Lord. Fill her with your love. That you give her the spirit of no compromise as you gave Daniel in Babylon.

LT

[KatieK]

Ok I haven't talked to the pastor yet. I'm not quite sure how to go about confronting her it seems pretty clear that ignoring it is not a good idea from the responses. What would ya'll suggest? should I show a youth leader or other saved adult in the church and ask them to confront her or to go with me? what about matthew. 18:15-17?

15"If your brother sins against you,[a] go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

It may be a bit to late for that since I asked you guys but chances are you couldn't find my church if you tried off the info on this site and i never named the pastor to you. I don't know. this is a problem. What do I do now?

-Katie