Is Hell really eternal burning?

[deadman1204]

That passage shows the Lord at his strongest.

Here he is being killed, and he asks the Father to forgive them for his murder. His entire life was an example for us to follow. He didnt even hold a grudge against those who were killing him. Thats what that passage is about.

[Gerioke]

So you don't think He made a petition for the lost? Salvation is for those with faith in Him. Perhaps he wants to reserve eternal torment for satan and his minions while putting the lost out of their misery by obliterating them.

[book_wirm]

Perhaps he wants to reserve eternal torment for satan and his minions while putting the lost out of their misery by obliterating them.

The scriptures seem to speak otherwise.

Hell is a place of eternal torment for all who die apart from God, through Christ.

In Christ,

Eric

[Gerioke]

Perhaps he wants to reserve eternal torment for satan and his minions while putting the lost out of their misery by obliterating them.

The scriptures seem to speak otherwise.

Hell is a place of eternal torment for all who die apart from God, through Christ.

In Christ,

Eric

Can you provide a scripture that suggests that please?

[book_wirm]

Hell is a place of eternal torment for all who die apart from God, through Christ.

Can you provide a scripture that suggests that please?

Certainly. It is referred to as "everlasting punishment" (Mat 25:46). The lake of fire is said to be torment "day and night for ever and ever" (Rev 20:10). We are told it is a place where the "worm does not die and the fire is not quenched" (Mk 9:43-48). And in every reference to the punishment of fire it is said to be eternal, everlasting. Why burn the fires forever if the lost are annihilated and no longer in them?

In Christ,

Eric

[Gerioke]

Hell is a place of eternal torment for all who die apart from God, through Christ.

Can you provide a scripture that suggests that please?

Certainly. It is referred to as "everlasting punishment" (Mat 25:46). The lake of fire is said to be torment "day and night for ever and ever" (Rev 20:10). We are told it is a place where the "worm does not die and the fire is not quenched" (Mk 9:43-48). And in every reference to the punishment of fire it is said to be eternal, everlasting. Why burn the fires forever if the lost are annihilated and no longer in them?

In Christ,

Eric

Can satan be killed?

[book_wirm]

Can satan be killed?

"Can" vs. "Will be"....what is the point of that question with relation to this discussion?

In Christ,

Eric

[Gerioke]

Can satan be killed?

"Can" vs. "Will be"....what is the point of that question with relation to this discussion?

In Christ,

Eric

Revelation 19

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are , and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

What is death?

[book_wirm]

What is death?

1)The end of physical life.

2)Separation from God

3)The wage of sin.

It has several senses which need not all be present in all cases.

In Christ,

Eric

Edited January 18, 2006 by book_wirm

[Gerioke]

Revelation 19

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Do you think all non christians will worship the beast?

Revelation 20

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are , and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Notice how these three will be tormented day and night, for ever and ever?

Revelation 21

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Notice how these people have a part reserved for them and they will experience the second death?

The devil, prophet and beast seem to be in a different part were the second death isn't mentioned.