can and will God really deliver from homosexuality

[melissa528]

i have been in love thought this person was my soulmate ...i have never ever felt for anyone like i did/do him...i still love him ....even when i wanted to hate him and hated his lifestyle....he is in the gay lifestyle,,,

when i met him 10 years ago ...i never once doubted that one day he would be delivered from this lifestyle...i have prayed for him...fasted for his deliverance...nothing....even if he were never to be with me in a relationship...i always believed God did not create him this way

he was saved as a child yet raped by an uncle at age 9 and he has lived in the gay lifestyle all of his teen and adult life....he believes in Jesus as his personal savior and even says that he doesnt believe people are born this way because he believes what the bible says ...yet he says it is a stronghold and he doesnt know how to be free and stop feeling this attraction and need for a man....

we have talked at length and he has prayed for himself went up to the alter and asked them to pray for his deliverance and even tried to stay away from his 'familiar' as he calls it ....yet he always goes back to it....it seems too strong

recently he said he 'has answered his calling' ...he always has believed that God called him into ministry but because he could not gaurantee his own self or God that he would not be with a man again....he would never really pursue stepping behind a pulpit ....because he felt this would not be correct in God's eyes nor could he really help anyone else if he was still trapped in this 'lust' for men....

every time i think i see a real change in him and that this time is for real...he always ends up running off with a man....and continueing the only life he has ever really known,...he has no real attraction for women not the way a man should and doesnt even consider himself bisexual...he has never had a relationship with a woman...and he is 33 yrs old

about two years ago ....i trembling...told God...' i give up' .....i vowed to never pray for him like that again...it just was too painful and i told God ' if you want him delivered then you do it, im tired of praying . im tired of hoping. im just plain tired!'

i was a little angry at God because i didnt understand why?....and i still dont....why was he and is he on my heart no matter what....and why am i stupid enough to believe he actually can change...my faith is seriously challenged....

i never wanted to say to anyone that 'this' is too hard for God......i never wanted to believe that ANYTHING a person was bound in was impossible or at least improbable.....

what hope is there for the homosexual really or the drug (crack ) addict....no he is not on crack but my girl friends boyfriend is and i keep giving her hope that God can do anything and change all that....after all no rehab programs seem to work for the crack addict....so God is thier only hope! isnt HE?

why then do i just hear these stories of hope and miracles on tbn etc....yet I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT IN MY LIFE AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND IN THE PEOPLE I CARE FOR AND PRAY FOR...

CAN A HOMOSEXUAL TRULY CHANGE?

this is a deep psychological issue and no therapists seem to have the answers ...IT NEVER PHASED ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS DID BELIEVE GOD COULD CHANGE ANYONE....NO BONDAGE WAS TOO HARD FOR GOD...

but after 10 years i feel like my faith and strength to believe is gone....i know for sure i believed .....i kept faith ....and always believed .....i felt like i was one who did agree that and i would and have for ten years told my friend so...

but after so many years ....so many disappointments and tears.......do i dare believe it....? or is it all some kind of hype that the church gives out all these testimonies just because it sounds good and boost their ratings?

do healings and true deliverance from issues of life really happen?

please help me to understand why i feel so compelled to believe for a person that seems to be always stuck in this rut

all this is extremely frustrating and discouraging.

i need help ...i dont want to offend my friend or argue with him about feelings and desires that to him are real and that he cant just pull out of.....

i am hurting so bad... but its the same old thing repeatedly day after day....

somebody please agree with me that nothing is impossible....he expresses that he wants out of the gay lifestyle....and please pray for me....because i feel i do need it most of all. ....

thank you

melissa

[Bolts]

Blessings melissa in Jesus Precious Name,

I think you've been wonderful to him for the last ten years. Your faith seams to be intact and so does your love. Perhaps you need to surrender your hope to the Lord and turn everything over to him. God does not want you tied up in knots. Surrender it all to him and start thanking and praising him for all the wonderful blessings that he has poured out on you, your family, the church and your friend. It is important that you safe guard your relationship with God. This is and is going to be the most important relationship of all.

As to your questions.

YES God can and does set captives free

YES he is a God of the impossible and improbable

[Fiosh]

i have been in love thought this person was my soulmate ...i have never ever felt for anyone like i did/do him...i still love him ....even when i wanted to hate him and hated his lifestyle....he is in the gay lifestyle,,,

when i met him 10 years ago ...i never once doubted that one day he would be delivered from this lifestyle...i have prayed for him...fasted for his deliverance...nothing....even if he were never to be with me in a relationship...i always believed God did not create him this way

he was saved as a child yet raped by an uncle at age 9 and he has lived in the gay lifestyle all of his teen and adult life....he believes in Jesus as his personal savior and even says that he doesnt believe people are born this way because he believes what the bible says ...yet he says it is a stronghold and he doesnt know how to be free and stop feeling this attraction and need for a man....

we have talked at length and he has prayed for himself went up to the alter and asked them to pray for his deliverance and even tried to stay away from his 'familiar' as he calls it ....yet he always goes back to it....it seems too strong

recently he said he 'has answered his calling' ...he always has believed that God called him into ministry but because he could not gaurantee his own self or God that he would not be with a man again....he would never really pursue stepping behind a pulpit ....because he felt this would not be correct in God's eyes nor could he really help anyone else if he was still trapped in this 'lust' for men....

every time i think i see a real change in him and that this time is for real...he always ends up running off with a man....and continueing the only life he has ever really known,...he has no real attraction for women not the way a man should and doesnt even consider himself bisexual...he has never had a relationship with a woman...and he is 33 yrs old

about two years ago ....i trembling...told God...' i give up' .....i vowed to never pray for him like that again...it just was too painful and i told God ' if you want him delivered then you do it, im tired of praying . im tired of hoping. im just plain tired!'

i was a little angry at God because i didnt understand why?....and i still dont....why was he and is he on my heart no matter what....and why am i stupid enough to believe he actually can change...my faith is seriously challenged....

i never wanted to say to anyone that 'this' is too hard for God......i never wanted to believe that ANYTHING a person was bound in was impossible or at least improbable.....

what hope is there for the homosexual really or the drug (crack ) addict....no he is not on crack but my girl friends boyfriend is and i keep giving her hope that God can do anything and change all that....after all no rehab programs seem to work for the crack addict....so God is thier only hope! isnt HE?

why then do i just hear these stories of hope and miracles on tbn etc....yet I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT IN MY LIFE AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND IN THE PEOPLE I CARE FOR AND PRAY FOR...

CAN A HOMOSEXUAL TRULY CHANGE?

this is a deep psychological issue and no therapists seem to have the answers ...IT NEVER PHASED ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS DID BELIEVE GOD COULD CHANGE ANYONE....NO BONDAGE WAS TOO HARD FOR GOD...

but after 10 years i feel like my faith and strength to believe is gone....i know for sure i believed .....i kept faith ....and always believed .....i felt like i was one who did agree that and i would and have for ten years told my friend so...

but after so many years ....so many disappointments and tears.......do i dare believe it....? or is it all some kind of hype that the church gives out all these testimonies just because it sounds good and boost their ratings?

do healings and true deliverance from issues of life really happen?

please help me to understand why i feel so compelled to believe for a person that seems to be always stuck in this rut

all this is extremely frustrating and discouraging.

i need help ...i dont want to offend my friend or argue with him about feelings and desires that to him are real and that he cant just pull out of.....

i am hurting so bad... but its the same old thing repeatedly day after day....

somebody please agree with me that nothing is impossible....he expresses that he wants out of the gay lifestyle....and please pray for me....because i feel i do need it most of all. ....

thank you

melissa

Oh, Melissa, sweetie, my heart goes out to you. It's so hard watching someone you care about going down a dangerous path and not being able to stop them.

Don't be fooled into thinking that you are alone. Most of us struggle at times with our faith. We question God's ways; we wonder, "why don't you DO something, Lord?" We pray and we pray and we pray..........and nothing. Or so it seems.

We never know how God is working or what effect our prayers are having. Heck, I'm not even really sure HOW prayer "works"---but it does. If you need a break from trying to pray him out of the lifestyle, pray that God will forgive his sins.

Prayer is never "wasted". You will be rewarded for your faithfulness, even in your struggle.

My pastor sometimes says that the best prayers are not the ones that flow readily from our lips, but rather those that are the most difficult for us to pray. The ones we have to force from our souls when we feel dry and isolated.

Hold on, Melissa. God is faithful. I question Him all too often. But He proves Himself time and again---though I hardlly deserve it.

Praying for you, sis.

Peace,

Fiosh

[InternalFlame]

YES God can and does set captives free

YES he is a God of the impossible and improbable

I agree there 100% God is truely a glorious God, and nothing is beyond his abilities. He sometimes works in mysterious ways...I often have found myself having the same questions as you...I have been praying for a husband a long time now and still nothing...but I trust God will bring him to me when the time is right. I realize now why God has not granted this prayer...partly because I need to yet mature in Him. At first it was painful to have to keep waiting, but now that I know God is working His will it is that much easier to bear.

Know that God's will will be done...you need not worry about things, because they are in His capeable hands.

[Leonard]

God will not violate this man's will.

[mrcorey]

AS an ex-gay man myself I can tell you that yes there is deliverence from homosexuality. However, your friend needs to want to change. And it is going to require a lot of hard work. I have been gay free for 11 years.

At the moment the only thing I can think of is to buy a book or two from Regeneration, one for yourself and one for your friend. The link to this place is :

https://regenbooks.com/default.asp

There is also Exodus North America. You can find a lot of ex-gay ministries all over the country. But again, your friend needs to want to change. In your city there is most likely one or two ex-gay support groups. Try to look this up and tell your friend if he truly wants to be an overcomer, it is vital that he go to an ex-gay ministry and vital that he works at it. It's not easy, it's a lot of hard work, but again, it can be obtained. The best book I've read is "Homosexual No More" by William Consiglio. I know this website also has books for spouses and friends. So they can understand the whole issue.

Again, it is very difficult to leave this lifestyle, but with a diligent humble heart it can be done. Who Jesus sets free, is free indeed.

I will offer you any support I can. Please feel free to PM me.

in Him;

corey

[DaniJ87]

i have been in love thought this person was my soulmate ...i have never ever felt for anyone like i did/do him...i still love him ....even when i wanted to hate him and hated his lifestyle....he is in the gay lifestyle,,,

when i met him 10 years ago ...i never once doubted that one day he would be delivered from this lifestyle...i have prayed for him...fasted for his deliverance...nothing....even if he were never to be with me in a relationship...i always believed God did not create him this way

he was saved as a child yet raped by an uncle at age 9 and he has lived in the gay lifestyle all of his teen and adult life....he believes in Jesus as his personal savior and even says that he doesnt believe people are born this way because he believes what the bible says ...yet he says it is a stronghold and he doesnt know how to be free and stop feeling this attraction and need for a man....

we have talked at length and he has prayed for himself went up to the alter and asked them to pray for his deliverance and even tried to stay away from his 'familiar' as he calls it ....yet he always goes back to it....it seems too strong

recently he said he 'has answered his calling' ...he always has believed that God called him into ministry but because he could not gaurantee his own self or God that he would not be with a man again....he would never really pursue stepping behind a pulpit ....because he felt this would not be correct in God's eyes nor could he really help anyone else if he was still trapped in this 'lust' for men....

every time i think i see a real change in him and that this time is for real...he always ends up running off with a man....and continueing the only life he has ever really known,...he has no real attraction for women not the way a man should and doesnt even consider himself bisexual...he has never had a relationship with a woman...and he is 33 yrs old

about two years ago ....i trembling...told God...' i give up' .....i vowed to never pray for him like that again...it just was too painful and i told God ' if you want him delivered then you do it, im tired of praying . im tired of hoping. im just plain tired!'

i was a little angry at God because i didnt understand why?....and i still dont....why was he and is he on my heart no matter what....and why am i stupid enough to believe he actually can change...my faith is seriously challenged....

i never wanted to say to anyone that 'this' is too hard for God......i never wanted to believe that ANYTHING a person was bound in was impossible or at least improbable.....

what hope is there for the homosexual really or the drug (crack ) addict....no he is not on crack but my girl friends boyfriend is and i keep giving her hope that God can do anything and change all that....after all no rehab programs seem to work for the crack addict....so God is thier only hope! isnt HE?

why then do i just hear these stories of hope and miracles on tbn etc....yet I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT IN MY LIFE AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND IN THE PEOPLE I CARE FOR AND PRAY FOR...

CAN A HOMOSEXUAL TRULY CHANGE?

this is a deep psychological issue and no therapists seem to have the answers ...IT NEVER PHASED ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS DID BELIEVE GOD COULD CHANGE ANYONE....NO BONDAGE WAS TOO HARD FOR GOD...

but after 10 years i feel like my faith and strength to believe is gone....i know for sure i believed .....i kept faith ....and always believed .....i felt like i was one who did agree that and i would and have for ten years told my friend so...

but after so many years ....so many disappointments and tears.......do i dare believe it....? or is it all some kind of hype that the church gives out all these testimonies just because it sounds good and boost their ratings?

do healings and true deliverance from issues of life really happen?

please help me to understand why i feel so compelled to believe for a person that seems to be always stuck in this rut

all this is extremely frustrating and discouraging.

i need help ...i dont want to offend my friend or argue with him about feelings and desires that to him are real and that he cant just pull out of.....

i am hurting so bad... but its the same old thing repeatedly day after day....

somebody please agree with me that nothing is impossible....he expresses that he wants out of the gay lifestyle....and please pray for me....because i feel i do need it most of all. ....

thank you

melissa

YES, I believe that God can deliver anyone from a homosexual lifestyle.

HOWEVER- they must truely repent from it, be WILLING to change, and to take the steps necessary to effect that change.

If you discuss this with him, confront him. Ask him to pray about it, and REALLY come to terms with whether or not he is SERIOUS about change. Then, get him to see a pastor or counselor, etc.

A great book about making life-changes, is "I Want to Change, So Help Me, God", by James MacDonald. I watched a lot of his DVDs... and it is incredible. It is serious too- you REALLY have to mean what you say, to Biblically change.

[melissa528]

thank you all so much for your replies and insight and support.......whysoblind....yes i wanted him for me....the way i felt about him ....yes there was desire....no i dont want him with another woman after all ive been thru and stood by him thru thick and thin.....so honestly yes i am selfish.....

i dont want to be in bondage myself with loving someone...sooo much... that it destroys me as a person,,,,making me bitter cold and all my joy drained....

i have been asking God to restore my zest for life ...and my joy...i have been so depressed and despondant....my friend keeps talking about changing...but his treatment of me just places so much distance ...i honestly dont feel he loves me.....not the way he acts and yes i have thought about him finally being free only to be with someone other than me....that hurts terribly...i am so tired and i feel he is further and further from me.....he has done some terrible rotten things to me....i used to think and believe things would get better...and yes i have been good to him.....but i dont feel he appreciates me or sees my worth...

so now i just pray Gods will, i can not keep worrying....and i am trying to do just that ....lay my desires at His feet....i know He can and will help me no matter what i go thru.....

thanks again for all your replies.....your support and encouragement helps so much

God bless you all

melissa

[Fiosh]

thank you all so much for your replies and insight and support.......whysoblind....yes i wanted him for me....the way i felt about him ....yes there was desire....no i dont want him with another woman after all ive been thru and stood by him thru thick and thin.....so honestly yes i am selfish.....

i dont want to be in bondage myself with loving someone...sooo much... that it destroys me as a person,,,,making me bitter cold and all my joy drained....

i have been asking God to restore my zest for life ...and my joy...i have been so depressed and despondant....my friend keeps talking about changing...but his treatment of me just places so much distance ...i honestly dont feel he loves me.....not the way he acts and yes i have thought about him finally being free only to be with someone other than me....that hurts terribly...i am so tired and i feel he is further and further from me.....he has done some terrible rotten things to me....i used to think and believe things would get better...and yes i have been good to him.....but i dont feel he appreciates me or sees my worth...

so now i just pray Gods will, i can not keep worrying....and i am trying to do just that ....lay my desires at His feet....i know He can and will help me no matter what i go thru.....

thanks again for all your replies.....your support and encouragement helps so much

God bless you all

melissa

Hi melissa,

I can understand your conflicting emotions, though I cannot honestly say I know what you are going thru.

But, I have been let down by friends. When that happens, I try to be patient and continue to love them and pray for them. Then I begin to get discouraged and hurt. Then I feel guilty and begin to question if I am being a lousy friend. Eventually, I turn it over to God. It may take several tries before I let Him keep it .

It is only when I give it to God that things happen. He has come thru for me in ways that I could never have even imagined.

Melissa, as hard as it is to let it go.....give it to God. Ask Him to fix it in whatever way He chooses, remembering that His ways are perfect. Be prepared to accept that this man may not be for you. Maybe he'll only ever be a friend, nothing more.

Maybe God has someone else for you? someone who will love and respect you, and treat you with kindness and gentleness.

I don't know what God has in mind. I do know you can trust Him in this, as in all things.

Pray for the grace to want to know His will.

Peace,

Fiosh

[Guest Debborah]

I know exactly how you feel. My husband had a very messy affair recently, and we have been trying to patch things up. Throught he six months or so that it has all been going on, I never felt so discouraged!!! I prayed and prayed, and prayed that God would help my unbelieving husband to come to him, and to give up this woman, ect. Nothing. It is so much more complicated than that, but I am sure you dont have all day. I am still praying for a miracle, but as somebody else said, God will never force anyone to do something they in there hearts dont want to do. Remember, we dont know the heart, only God does. And until that person comes to a point in there lives that they truely in there hearts dont want to do these things any mopre, then God can step in. We wont know when that time will be, so we need to pray every day, and let God do the worrying. We will never be able to control or change anyone, only God can do that..in his time. I hope that helps. I still pray every day for my husband, and if others could too, I would be very grateful. His name is Joe, and I am sure he wants to do the right thing, but is finding it to hard for his ego. You have to be humbled to be what God wants us to be. Hope all goes well Dont get discouraged. Leave it with God.