Gay marriage question

[Guest Trever]

We now understand a lot more about homosexuality than at any point in history, and we have accordingly altered our legal systems. Homosexuality is also prevalent in nature. Is it right to persecute homos and give them less rights? Really, is it? Gay marriage is a simple problem really; if you find gay marriage immoral then don't enter into one. If you are gay and want equal legal standing for a long term loving relationship then by all means enter into one.

[Guest AGC 4 Life]

Homosexuality is also prevalent in nature. Is it right to persecute homos and give them less rights?

Are you talking about marriage?

[Work in Progress]

We now understand a lot more about homosexuality than at any point in history

[Guest Trever]

We now understand a lot more about homosexuality than at any point in history

Come on! There is loads of evidence about genetic origins of it. Also there is Darwinian arguments for it's staying in the gene pool. Also another possible candidate for a male 'gay gene' for 'being attracted to males' that is carried by females and passed to males has been identified. There are numerous examples of occurrence in the animal kingdom. etc.

[Guest Trever]

Homosexuality is also prevalent in nature. Is it right to persecute homos and give them less rights?

Are you talking about marriage?

Yes, civil rights regarding ownership of property etc. Things married couples get and until now same sex relationshipers were denied.

[Work in Progress]

Sorry, I don't agree. I know the same thing now about homosexuality that I've known all along. I have not been ahem "enlightened" by society. Or, what is that word they use? Educated.

[Guest Trever]

Sorry, I don't agree. I know the same thing now about homosexuality that I've known all along. I have not been ahem "enlightened" by society. Or, what is that word they use? Educated.

Indeed, EDUCATED. It is what we do when we get new information; we modify and update our worldview. It gives us wonderful freedom to live fulfilled lives.

[apothanein kerdos]

Sorry, I don't agree. I know the same thing now about homosexuality that I've known all along. I have not been ahem "enlightened" by society. Or, what is that word they use? Educated.

Indeed, EDUCATED. It is what we do when we get new information; we modify and update our worldview. It gives us wonderful freedom to live fulfilled lives.

This is a false philosophy. This is because not all new information is true or correct. It might seem true at the time, but if it doesn't hold true or lacks holes eventually, then we have based our worldview off of a falsehood.

A TRUE Christian bases his worldview off of the Bible, not off "new information" that contradicts the Bible. When new information is gained, we do not automatically change our worldview; we filter it through our worldview and if it fits we apply it. If it contradicts then either our worldview is wrong, or the information is wrong.

Trever, are you a Christian who believes the Bible?

[Guest Trever]

" This is because not all new information is true or correct. It might seem true at the time, but if it doesn't hold true or lacks holes eventually, then we have based our worldview off of a falsehood"

Indeed, this is why scientific methodology is so vigorous and pier reviewed. It is actually quite difficult to get scientific papers published and none claim absolute certainty. That is the beauty of the system. It is a most likely worldview based on heavily scrutinised information.

And indeed most people that work in Biological science would agree to a biological aspect in homosexuality.]

The Bible has it merits. We Christians have abandoned certain things over the ages, through claims that they reflect the times. i.e. Slavery. Homophobia will I believe be next to abandoned, as we now live in a different culture.

I have read too about the vast increase in the acceptance of evolution amongst christians and the acceptance of creation stories as being allegorical.

Edited February 7, 2006 by Trever

[Guest Trever]

I should clarify, I read about UK Christians accepting evolution and creation being allegorical. I believe in the USA the view is still very much towards an 'absolute truth' way of thinking.