It's Nonsense!

[Marnie]

http://www.therant.us/staff/caruba/02162006.htm

"It is sad to hear the House Minority Leader spouting such nonsense and scary if she really believes what she is saying is true. In fairness, the President, in his State of the Union speech, called for energy independence, saying,

[Guest Trever]

http://www.therant.us/staff/caruba/02162006.htm

"It is sad to hear the House Minority Leader spouting such nonsense and scary if she really believes what she is saying is true. In fairness, the President, in his State of the Union speech, called for energy independence, saying,

[Guest Trever]

The article is nonsense, and sadly it appears a typical American attitude. Global warming is a fact, the earth is heating up. The ice in Greenland is receding. There is huge consenses in the scientific community now. We must invest in renewables.

Edited February 16, 2006 by Trever

[Ovedya]

Actually not all scientists are completely sold on the ide of global warming. As the article points out a lot of the "evidence" is based on computer modeling. Scientists are still unsure whether the planet is undergoing a long-term change or a short term change. Sure, they tell us that the planet is getting warmer, but they are still not all completely convinced that it's not just a natural occurance, rather than a great danger from greenhouse gases and carbon emissions. The jury's still out, and I think that it's reasonable to, on the one hand watch and wait, and on the other hand to work to find those sources of renewable clean energy.

You can't let yourself get sucked into environmentalist propaganda.

[apothanein kerdos]

Actually not all scientists are completely sold on the ide of global warming. As the article points out a lot of the "evidence" is based on computer modeling. Scientists are still unsure whether the planet is undergoing a long-term change or a short term change. Sure, they tell us that the planet is getting warmer, but they are still not all completely convinced that it's not just a natural occurance, rather than a great danger from greenhouse gases and carbon emissions. The jury's still out, and I think that it's reasonable to, on the one hand watch and wait, and on the other hand to work to find those sources of renewable clean energy.

You can't let yourself get sucked into environmentalist propaganda.

At the same time we have to acknowledge a few things as Christians:

* The earth was created by God and still shows his goodness. Looking over the Rocky Mountains, the Great Plains, or a visit to the ocean will show this.

* The earth is in a fallen state, which means it is fragile and corruptable. It is no longer in "perfect beauty" (nothing can change it) and can be damaged.

* It will not be completely redeemed until God returns and establishes His kingdom.

* Until that time, we are to take care of God's creation, to make sure we don't abuse it or harm it.

* Most pollution occurs from a desire to produce, produce, produce, and produce. This feeds into a materialistic society. Materialism (all forms) contradict the scripture.

* By sticking up for industry over the enviroment we are promoting an anti-Biblical practise over God's creation.

I am not calling for all of us to become tree huggers...what I am calling for is for Christians to become more active in enviromental causes. Instead of denying global warming (something which can occur by too much Co2 production), why not go ahead and do what we can now to prevent it from ever occuring? Why are Christians so anti-enviromental protection? It is, after all, God's creation.

[Guest Trever]

Actually not all scientists are completely sold on the ide of global warming. As the article points out a lot of the "evidence" is based on computer modeling. Scientists are still unsure whether the planet is undergoing a long-term change or a short term change. Sure, they tell us that the planet is getting warmer, but they are still not all completely convinced that it's not just a natural occurance, rather than a great danger from greenhouse gases and carbon emissions. The jury's still out, and I think that it's reasonable to, on the one hand watch and wait, and on the other hand to work to find those sources of renewable clean energy.

You can't let yourself get sucked into environmentalist propaganda.

At the same time we have to acknowledge a few things as Christians:

* The earth was created by God and still shows his goodness. Looking over the Rocky Mountains, the Great Plains, or a visit to the ocean will show this.

* The earth is in a fallen state, which means it is fragile and corruptable. It is no longer in "perfect beauty" (nothing can change it) and can be damaged.

* It will not be completely redeemed until God returns and establishes His kingdom.

* Until that time, we are to take care of God's creation, to make sure we don't abuse it or harm it.

* Most pollution occurs from a desire to produce, produce, produce, and produce. This feeds into a materialistic society. Materialism (all forms) contradict the scripture.

* By sticking up for industry over the enviroment we are promoting an anti-Biblical practise over God's creation.

I am not calling for all of us to become tree huggers...what I am calling for is for Christians to become more active in enviromental causes. Instead of denying global warming (something which can occur by too much Co2 production), why not go ahead and do what we can now to prevent it from ever occuring? Why are Christians so anti-enviromental protection? It is, after all, God's creation.

fantastic. In Europe we are busy buying fuel efficient cars, recycling our waste, and generally being concerned. Now finally it appears Bush may have 'seen the light'. I just hope more of the rightwing republican Christian bunch can also

[apothanein kerdos]

Actually not all scientists are completely sold on the ide of global warming. As the article points out a lot of the "evidence" is based on computer modeling. Scientists are still unsure whether the planet is undergoing a long-term change or a short term change. Sure, they tell us that the planet is getting warmer, but they are still not all completely convinced that it's not just a natural occurance, rather than a great danger from greenhouse gases and carbon emissions. The jury's still out, and I think that it's reasonable to, on the one hand watch and wait, and on the other hand to work to find those sources of renewable clean energy.

You can't let yourself get sucked into environmentalist propaganda.

At the same time we have to acknowledge a few things as Christians:

* The earth was created by God and still shows his goodness. Looking over the Rocky Mountains, the Great Plains, or a visit to the ocean will show this.

* The earth is in a fallen state, which means it is fragile and corruptable. It is no longer in "perfect beauty" (nothing can change it) and can be damaged.

* It will not be completely redeemed until God returns and establishes His kingdom.

* Until that time, we are to take care of God's creation, to make sure we don't abuse it or harm it.

* Most pollution occurs from a desire to produce, produce, produce, and produce. This feeds into a materialistic society. Materialism (all forms) contradict the scripture.

* By sticking up for industry over the enviroment we are promoting an anti-Biblical practise over God's creation.

I am not calling for all of us to become tree huggers...what I am calling for is for Christians to become more active in enviromental causes. Instead of denying global warming (something which can occur by too much Co2 production), why not go ahead and do what we can now to prevent it from ever occuring? Why are Christians so anti-enviromental protection? It is, after all, God's creation.

fantastic. In Europe we are busy buying fuel efficient cars, recycling our waste, and generally being concerned. Now finally it appears Bush may have 'seen the light'. I just hope more of the rightwing republican Christian bunch can also

You have to figure, most of American Christianity is stuck under the umbrella of "production is key." In other words, they often ignore the Bible when looking to enviromental issues.

At the same time, you are in no place to judge...you applaud me looking to the Bible in enviromental issues but frown when I do so with homosexuality. Be consistent.

[Guest Trever]

indeed. I was applauding the result of you looking in the Bible for environment guidance not the action. Atheists want to look after each other and the plant for different reasons, but if there is common ground we may as well walk together.

[traveller]

indeed. I was applauding the result of you looking in the Bible for environment guidance not the action. Atheists want to look after each other and the plant for different reasons, but if there is common ground we may as well walk together.

So, are you saying that you are an atheist, Trever?

[Guest Trever]

indeed. I was applauding the result of you looking in the Bible for environment guidance not the action. Atheists want to look after each other and the plant for different reasons, but if there is common ground we may as well walk together.

So, are you saying that you are an atheist, Trever?

I mean no harm