Is God Malevolent?

[Guest miketaba]

I must not ujnderstand.

God doesn't save people because... it's better to have horrible things happen.. because...

Alos, if he solved the inherent problem, why are there still problems? If the inherent problem is solved why does it seem to do so little?

[Ovedya]

I must not ujnderstand.

God doesn't save people because... it's better to have horrible things happen.. because...

Alos, if he solved the inherent problem, why are there still problems? If the inherent problem is solved why does it seem to do so little?

How many people get sick and refuse to go the doctor? How many people go the the doctor, get their medicine, and don't take it all? How many people have deep-seated mental or physical ailments and refuse attention because they think that their own way is better? And then they suffer and try to blame someone else?

God's already given us the "cure" for our ailment. Problem is, a lot of people refuse to take it, don't follow the directions, or think that they know better than the Physician. Then they have the nerve to blame God?

Feh.

[Inti]

Please explain to me why God decides not to help us? Sure we wouldn't LEARN anything, but I believe ignorance is better than senseless killing "God" allows to go on every day.

Also, in the book of Genesis it seems God condones ignorance, saying you may not eat from the tree of wisdom. It seems as if he tries to keep his people in the dark.

I have a 4-year old daughter. I told her one day not to drink bleach: "Don't drink that. Bleach is bad. It will kill you." Am I keeping her in the dark?

God has not decided not to help us. He sent His Son to die in our stead, so that we might have peace in this age and eternal life in the age to come. Just because His way of peace and salvation does not match your own ideals doesn't mean that He's malevolent. After all, He wouldn't be God if He simply did things at the whims of men, would He?

No but if she did drink you bleach you wouldn't stand by and let her die would you - and it would be a slow agonizing death. You would rush her to hospital to make sure she got the medical attention she needed as soon as possible.

Now, if that ever occured and you stepped in and saved her, do you think you have stopped her learning an important lesson? Or do you think you where being a responsible parent?

Most courts would like to know how your daughter was able to get hold of bleach in the first place, to actually drink it. Social Services (or the american equivilent) would be called in, and your ability as a parent, would in fact be questioned.

[Ovedya]

No but if she did drink you bleach you wouldn't stand by and let her die would you - and it would be a slow agonizing death. You would rush her to hospital to make sure she got the medical attention she needed as soon as possible.

Right. And God also provided the pattern for salvation when He slew the animal (probably a lamb) and made coats of skins for Adam and Eve. He then foretold o Christ's victorious death, which would save man from his sins.

Now, if that ever occured and you stepped in and saved her, do you think you have stopped her learning an important lesson? Or do you think you where being a responsible parent?

Most courts would like to know how your daughter was able to get hold of bleach in the first place, to actually drink it. Social Services (or the american equivilent) would be called in, and your ability as a parent, would in fact be questioned.

No, most courts wouldn't. The issue wouldn't even go to a court or to Social Services. Accidents happen. The law recognizes that. After all, we don't live in a communist state over here.

Second, my daughter did swallow a penny a couple of years ago. I couln't have prevented her from swallowing it because I didn't see it in her mouth. The penny got caught sideways in her esophagus and we had to take her to the Emergency Room. They had to put her under to get the penny out. No Social Services, no courts.

[jesussaves]

Because he doesn't stop suffering.

Why would someone so intent on loving us and stuff want to cause us such pain?

No- He isn't malicious or wishing evil. Our God is good! He loves us and only wants what is best for us.

[Guest miketaba]

Because he doesn't stop suffering.

Why would someone so intent on loving us and stuff want to cause us such pain?

No- He isn't malicious or wishing evil. Our God is good! He loves us and only wants what is best for us.

And therefore he wants mass killing, terrorists and rapists!

I get it now.

Thanks.

[ayin jade]

And therefore he wants mass killing, terrorists and rapists!

I get it now.

Thanks.

Nope.

Humans want this. Humanity is sinful. This is why Jesus needed to come. To save us from that sinful nature we have. To reconcile us to God since we have sunk so low. So that we can be forgiven for our many sins. So that we can be transformed into a more Christ like image.

If you are truly interested in understanding the Lord, why not stop the feistiness and ask questions, genuine questions.

[Ovedya]

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[Guest Azor]

And therefore he wants mass killing, terrorists and rapists!

I get it now.

Thanks.

Nope.

Humans want this. Humanity is sinful. This is why Jesus needed to come. To save us from that sinful nature we have. To reconcile us to God since we have sunk so low. So that we can be forgiven for our many sins. So that we can be transformed into a more Christ like image.

If you are truly interested in understanding the Lord, why not stop the feistiness and ask questions, genuine questions.

If you think humanity is sinful, then you need to change your surroundings because you are obviously running with a bad crowd. Everybody in my life experience are good and decent people. However, it may just be that that's what I choose to see in them. I'm sure if I chose to focus on everybody's shortcomings, I'd see them. God doesn't make junk.

[Giaour]

Good according to who's standards?

Mans?

According to man's standards, I am a saint.

According to God's standards, I am a sinful and horrible person.

I am a liar (who hasn't told a lie?), a theif( who hasn't eaten a grape at the grocery store?), an adulterer(who hasn't looked at the opposite sex and thought hubba hubba?), a murderer(who hasn't thought of bad things to happen to someone they don't like?), idolater(who hasn't put other things in a place of importance over God? Like, skipping church to go skating.)

Man I am EVIL!

Thank you Jesus for taking my punishment for me.

I could never endure what I deserve.