genisis, creationism, and evolution

[maxm2820]

i'm new here so if i'm asking a question that has already been answered... sorry!!!!

it seems like this has been brought up a lot lately for me. for the past couple of days i have been getting a lot of questions about creationism vs evolution and how they work together. my own husband asked me yesterday where cavemen came into the picture if i believed in creation. i'm just very curious about what other people think about all that. do you believe that the earth was litterally created in six days? how is all this compatable with what science "knows" about the creation of earth and evolution? just curious. thanks.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

You can find an invaluable resource here with regard to your questions.

On a more personal note, I believe God is true to his word, I believe the Genesis account is literal not figurative....6 repetitions of the same definition of a 24 hour day are, to my mind pretty compelling. God also instructs us in exodus to work for 6 days and rest on the seventh, just as he did with creation. So any gap theorists or evolution theaorists are gonna have a VERY long working week.

I believe the earth is approximately 6000 years old thus far and I believe this because the Genealogies trace it back to roughly that length of time although there are potential gaps in the genealogies. However I believe that as well as the genealogies, a 6000 year history is consistant with the typology that God uses through history in scripture and a 6000 year toil on earth followed by a 1000 year reign of peace would parallel the 6 days of toil and 1 day of rest in creation.

Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. Behemoth and Leviathan being the most cited candidates, and yes they WOULD all fit on the ark.

Fossil dating is not a precise science, nor is geological dating. Methods such as carbon dating and radio-isotope dating are flawed science based on assumptions and often produce wildly varied results.

God says that creation speaks of him and I feel a good example is the triune nature of creation, from the Proton/Neutron/Electron nature of the atom, through the double-helix/hydrogen bond of DNA up to the three states of matter Liquid/Solid/Gas

God is in and around everything we see. His word is truth and we have no reason, despite the flawed wisdom of our most highly esteemed intellectual types, to doubt that what God says is true

[kittylover0991]

Creation and ecvolution does not mix

The bible says God created the earth in six days, and therefore, I believe it. God is the one thing that has always proven true and perfect in my life, and never failing. God has shown many wonders to me, he has worked in my life, and if you just look outside at the world(even just a simple flower.. how complicated it can be), that is proof of creation

Cavemen? Shown as men that are truly stupid and idiots? I don't think so..

My pastor has never preached on this so this is just my opinion.. I think the whole view of "cavemen" is out of whacked. God didnt' create us stupid.. he created us with a language(Cain and Abel) and with some form of sense of right and wrong.

For instance, you have the first known game of hide-and-go-seek Adam and Eve disobeyed, and they hid. God went and looked for them(although he always knew where they were). I don't believe in the whole caveman thing as it is portrayed.

I don't believe that evolution and creation can co-exist. What scientists "know" is all theory. The world itself, I think, is only about 7-8 thousand years old.. they talk about billions.. and how old the dinosaurs were...

Why not ask those people how they think the world came about.. how it came ot be so miraculous... Big bang? God said it, and bang, it happened... Other than that.... it coudlnt' have all started from one organism which they still can not tell me where that all came from...

Stick with the bible, and you'll never go wrong

Besides, Science has more loopholes than theories..

~Crystal

[Khristeeanos]

Science tells us that the universe was formed many billions of years ago.

The Bible tells us that it happened about 6,000 years ago (Read the genealogy of Jesus and see that we go backwards from Jesus to Adam, who was a literal person).

Science tells us that the sun was formed before earth.

The Bible tells us that the earth was formed before the sun.

Science tells us the earth cooled down from a hot mass.

The Bible tells us that the earth was formed in water.

Science tells us it rained on the rocks for millions of years to create oceans.

The Bible tells us it didn

[His Ambassador]

Don't get bogged down in a "creation vs evolution" discussion as it is usually a smoke screen brought up to avoid the real issue - what are you going to do with Jesus Christ?

There were no "cave men" as is usually thought. There were (and are) humans who lived in caves but they were not part of an evolutionary process.

What one believes about the creation of man and the Earth has nothing to do with where they will spend Eternity. However, if one believes he descended from a monkey it may very well cause him to think he is no more or less than an animal and he will conduct his life accordingly. Therein lies the danger of the theory of evolution.

[maxm2820]

i dont think i'd consider creationsism vs evolution vs gap theory etc...as getting "bogged down". i think this is a very very important issue. it's a nice "coincidence" that NewPilgram posted a link to Ken Ham (who, btw, i'd never heard of until today). he makes a very good point as to why taking the first 11 verses litterally is important.

btw, thanks, y'all, for the responses. they've helped. do you guys have any advice as to how to help my husband. he's not sure if he even believes in God and i think a major part of it is b/c he agrees with the theory of evolution and doesn't understand how God and evolution can "co-exist".... i was just wondering if y'all had any ideas. like websites or book or something. thanks.

[Kabowd]

I'd highly recommend this site:

Discovery Institute

Anything by William Dembski, Phillip Johnson, Nancy Pearcey or a book by Jonathan Wells called Icons of Evolution. Science is not at odds with Christianity. Science has actually validated many of our beliefs (the discovery of DNA is just one example).

Here's an interesting article too:

Scientific Dissent from Darwinism

I agree that it is an important issue. Not only is it current events, but believers should be educated on how to deal with these conversations when they arise. To me, it's not so important how God created the world (i.e. literal days or not), but the fact that He did do it. If we could focus our energy on defending the fact that God created it, instead of on how He did it...we might get further with the unbelievers around us.

[ZhenQing]

Anyone can find the resource for me about the Evolution of Humans came from Monkey? My pastor's wife taught me before but I forgot. I only remember, scientists want people to see them as smart people, so they tried to think that we humans came from monkey. They said, "Oh, we came from this family of monkey, but this type of monkey no longer existed Could you believe that? Until now, they can't find a single bone of any monkey that can prove we are from monkey. Then how can they print their unprovened ideas in science books and expect everyone of us to believe in it? If we evolved from monkey, then later on, what will we evolve into? Super smart aliens? Do you know it took a lot of geniuses' white hair to think of nature's formulas that you've learned in math and sciences? We cannot, from unlogical monkeys, turned to logical human beings in that kind of evolution. It's totally against natural law.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Here's another good source for you Dr.Dino

I think you answered your own question rather well, minister to your husband through established sources on the net and in literature. And remind him that regardless of what scientific speculation presents to us, there will be some things that we will just never understand and faith in God enables us to not IGNORE the unknown, but rather to accept the fact that it is...unknown. And as Ambassador says, when it comes crunch time, the big decision is not who did what and when, its "Do YOU believe in JESUS" After all ifsomeone continually looks for reasons NOT to believe, eventually his unbelief will leave him unstuck.

[abbershay]

Science tells us that the universe was formed many billions of years ago.

The Bible tells us that it happened about 6,000 years ago (Read the genealogy of Jesus and see that we go backwards from Jesus to Adam, who was a literal person).

Science tells us that the sun was formed before earth.

The Bible tells us that the earth was formed before the sun.

Science tells us the earth cooled down from a hot mass.

The Bible tells us that the earth was formed in water.

Science tells us it rained on the rocks for millions of years to create oceans.

The Bible tells us it didn