Are JW a cult?

[Guest Daave]

Are Jehovah

[Guest Daave]

Interested by the question, I thought I would go to dictionary.com and see what we are talking about. I find it valuable to know that we are talking about the samething by defining some terms.

entries found for Cult.

cult ( P ) Pronunciation Key (klt)

n.

A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

The followers of such a religion or sect.

A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.

The object of such devotion.

An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

I find this interesting because, really, we could, within our own group, classify everyone outside our group as a cult. Pointing to this and that and the other thing which we may consider radical or different. So, as I am considering this delema, I must consider the term "Cult" as everything different than my own way of looking at things because cult is not a biblical term or idea. That would make the question confronting me the wrong question because it is totally subjective. Now what do I do? All I have now is tit for tat, this for that to solve the riddle, and probably end up more confused than when I started.

So as the question is phrased, "Are Jehovah's Whitnesses A Cult?" the answer would be yes, they just as much a cult as any other religious organization.

Now were do I go? Well......

1John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1John 5:1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

I submit these verses to put into biblical terms the question:

Are the Jehovah's Whitnesses Christ's or antichrist.

Daave

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[suzanagimpel]

I submit these verses to put into biblical terms the question:

Are the Jehovah's Whitnesses Christ's or antichrist.

Daave

[Guest Daave]

A religion ( Cult ) that eliminates 2 out of 3 persons of the trinity must just be the wrong one.

This is my opinion. What is yours?

If you agree now than we can call them Heretical religious people.

I don't know how to do that Quote thing, so I just copied and pasted.

Thank you for your response to my comments, it's just nice to be noticed. Yea, I suppose "Heretical religious people" would work just fine, but simply put, antichrist matches "Jehovahs visible organization" for the very reason that you stated. The original message said that the JW's had accepted the KJV for the last 100 years. That has not been my experience with them, they only accept the KJV as interpreted by the Watchtower. "In Context" means what the Watchtower considers "in context" the poor people may be out and about doing all kinds of stuff, but they must remain the servant of the Watchtower. Jesus has to be demoted to something other than The Son of God so their true trinity can Jehovah-Watchtower-active force, to much of Jesus messes things up for them. That has been my experience talking with JW's. I feel sorry for them for believeing that all of what is known of God comes out of Brooklyn New York.

Daave

[Guest Timbo]

Dave,

As an organization, Jehovah's Witnesses have been abused, persecuted. For example, during WWII, in Germany, Hitler tried to exterminate them by imprisoning them in concentration camps, such as the Sachsenhausen, Dachau and Mauthausen concentration camps, the death camp at Ravensbr

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Timbo;

Many believe rumors that are passed around. However, unfounded rumors and misinformation have also provided fuel for harmful gossip. During the American Civil War, endless vinelike strands of telegraph lines were strung between military posts. The

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

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Grace to you,

Timbo,

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Throughout history, God's people have been attacked, either physically or by verbal abuse.

I fail to see where anyone has verbally abused you or attacked you personally. However some have endeavored to point out the error of a Religious practice which leads to death (Jehovahs Witness). In the full Light of Gods revealed Truth as bound up in Christ Jesus and His everlasting Word.

I believe that the Truth has been spoken. Let the Word of God stand.

We are commanded to refuse any teaching which does not concur with the Truth as we have received it. That is in effect that we are all sinners and God died for our sins on a Cross atoning for us. Rising in New Life and triumphing over hell and death. Leaving us with the promise of His Ressurected life and Hope by Faith. Anything we have to offer outside of that Work, The Work of God, is filthy rags in His presence and will be rejected alongside His Righteousness.Christ Jesus the Righteousness of God come in mans flesh. Your gospel steals away the power and simplicity of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we reject it and speak the Truth in Love.

I pray the Lord Richly Blesses you.

Peace,

Dave

Timbo,

You never answered me.

Is Jesus Christ God come in the flesh? Do you deny the Gospel of our Lords Saving Grace?

No one is persecuting you here either.

Again the Truth has been spoken in Love.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest NewPilgrim]

TIMBO. Is that the best argument you have? thats extremely poor. By the same logic native africans are God's sole representatives on earth, by the same logic muslims are God's sole representatives on earth, by the same logic buddhists are God's sole representatives on earth, the KKK, even some nazi's are persecuted when their allegences are made known, there are those within each of these categories who would defend the honour of Christ, yes even some nazi's. Yet you claim that the persecution of JWs is evidence that THEY are God's sole representatives on earth and I assume that you are not exclusively native african, buddhist or muslim etc... JW's get afflicted and persecuited, so what, welcome to a long line of persecuted people. Instead of flanneling, why dont you produce a compelling SCRIPTURAL case. How about starting with addressing the question which I have already posted to you and WOJ twice.. You can find it here

[Guest christofer]

WOW - one question - are the JW's a cult - led to all this? Of course it is a cult - as are all the so-called churches and their claims to authority. Jesus is declared to be the one we all hope in, but if we were all following Jesus, this thread would've been much shorter, don't you agree?

Matthew 15:14

"Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Luke 6:39

And He also spoke a parable to them: " A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit?

If they declare Jesus - I can pray that He has a plan for them as He has for me as He has for you - and let it be. Arguing only leads to division, and we are all divided too much already.

God Bless.

Edited May 11, 2006 by christofer

[Arthur Durnan]

Jesus Himself warned that "false prophets shall arise & deceive many". The false cult of "Jehovah's False Witnesses" didn't even exist until the mid-nineteenth-century! Its founder was a Pittsburgh haberdasher named Charles Taze Russell who, by the way, died divorced from his wife, a vital point the cult doesn't wish to pursue. Rather than being any "watchtower", the JFWs rather stand as signposts.....to the very gehenna they ridicule!

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