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St. John Posted: Nov 10 2003, 10:59 AM
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No just those that judge with hypocrisy. You all know who you are.

Where did I judge with hypocrisy? Or were you speaking to yourself again? Hypocrisy, as previously defined, is when you judge others for doing the same thing you're doing. Are we fleecing the flock? Are we making false prophecies?

Are you accusing us of things you don't know? Seems that way to me. Are you accusing us of saying things we don't know? Yep! So, what was that definition again?


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Where did I judge with hypocrisy? Or were you speaking to yourself again? Hypocrisy, as previously defined, is when you judge others for doing the same thing you're doing. Are we fleecing the flock? Are we making false prophecies?

Maybe not intentionally.


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BUT, when you find maids, cooks, personal chaufeurs, nannies for the children ......well...

Cat, I've been in the Christian church life since I was 2 weeks old. I've seen this over and over. I think it's the majority, too. Whenever I've said anything, I'm given excuses. It totally turns me off too.


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"It just doesn't get better, ....does it?" :blink:

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Where did I judge with hypocrisy? Or were you speaking to yourself again? Hypocrisy, as previously defined, is when you judge others for doing the same thing you're doing. Are we fleecing the flock? Are we making false prophecies?

Maybe not intentionally.

I tried hard not to say anything but just couldn't stop myself. John do you ever have a kind word for anyone? In what way do you think we are fleecing the flock?


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Are we fleecing the flock? Are we making false prophecies?

I don't see it RGR. Frankly nothing anyone has said has misaligned with my bible yet.


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Oh, to see peace in this forum ..... would be an awsome site. It's pretty obvious that St. John takes comfort from TBN, Benny Hinn. I'm cool with people finding solice in ANY minister so long as the masses of the people aren't hurt along the way. In this day and age of lawsuits we can all rest assured that IF TBN, Benny Hinn, or whoever is doing something illegal or immoral it WILL be brought to light. For St. John and the followers of these folks I hope and pray it doesn't happen. For each his own......

God Bless!

I'm sorry to disappoint you river, and others. But I don't "follow" Benny Hinn or anyone else for that matter. I follow Jesus, my Savior. I defend Benny Hinn, but that does not make me a follower. I seldom if ever in a month watch This is Your Day. I don't have TV. I do have webcast on the computer but I still don't watch it.

People want to make Benny Hinn out as leading people away from churches and Jesus, like a cult leader. But that is not true. People are born again in his meetings, and then are told to attend a church, and read their bible. No cult, or cult leader does that. In a cult you have to belong to their religion. Their way is the only way, not Jesus. But Benny Hinn doesn't want you following Beny Hinn or being a member of his "religion". He wants you back in your church, and reading your bible, and giving God all the glory.


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Where did I judge with hypocrisy? Or were you speaking to yourself again? Hypocrisy, as previously defined, is when you judge others for doing the same thing you're doing. Are we fleecing the flock? Are we making false prophecies?

Maybe not intentionally.

I tried hard not to say anything but just couldn't stop myself. John do you ever have a kind word for anyone? In what way do you think we are fleecing the flock?

You are OK with thinking and speaking and accusing Benny Hinn and the WOF of fleecing the flock, but when I suggest that maybe SOME of you might be doing it, unintentionally, you get your tail in a knot. You see, I think that there is an agenda to defaming Benny Hinn. We have the liberal, leftist, Godless media, that you seem to side with against Benny Hinn, and then there are some apologetics sites that intentionally use deceptive tactics against Hinn, and others. Then there is the unGodly doctrines that some of the churches believe concerning healing; like that sometimes God says NO to some and YES to others, or that it passed away with the Apostles, or it is God's will that you remain sick. That is fleecing the flock out of their healing, by placing doctrines that cause you to doubt the healing that Jesus paid for when He received the most brutal beating and whipping. That beating was for your healing. By his stripes we WERE healed. But put a few messed up doctrines on healing into the church and satan can more easily steal, kill and destroy the flock. Where there is any doubt that God still heals, or where there is any doubt that God is willing to heal you, now, there is no working faith to be healed. When healing is preached overseas, where these doctines that cause doubt have never been heard, and it it "GOD heals period" then people are easily healed easily. Where there is no doubt, faith flourishes and is alive and working and Healing results.

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I am falling :sleep: so will answer you tomorrow night.

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