HOW MANY WAYS CAN WE BE SAVED?

[thepreacher]

Okay let us start this off with some patterns or directions of God...

WHAT IS THE FIRST THING JESUS CHRIST SAYS TO DO?

Jesus Christ began his ministry and he is the one we should listen to first of all. Agree?

Also it would be wise to start with the things he said to do first and not second or third.

Please give scriptures so we can all share.

What was the gospel Jesus Christ preached and taught?

What is everyone told to do FIRST?

Jesus tells us what the first thing is and how to acquire it, can you?

How did Jesus say to go about doing this?

What did Jesus say would happen if we don

[EricH]

And after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

Mark 1:15 NASB

And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book, and found the place where it was written, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim release to the captives, And recovery of sight to the blind, To set free those who are downtrodden, To proclaim the favorable year of the Lord."

Luke 1:17-19 NASB

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16 NASB

For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.

John 3:17-21 NASB

From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 4:17 NASB

Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?" And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."

Matthew 7:21-23

[thepreacher]

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Hi EricH,

I liked your response very much. Thank you. The more scripture references will always show the truth in even better light.

From your scripture John 3:17-21.

I believe this is a great reference to God

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Hi EricH,

I liked your response very much. Thank you. The more scripture references will always show the truth in even better light.

From your scripture John 3:17-21.

I believe this is a great reference to God

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Amen to that times.

[thepreacher]

PATTERNS STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE

1.It is establish by scripture that the gospel Jesus Christ taught was the:

Matt 4:23

[thepreacher]

1.Sinners prayer, or confessing your sins and asking for forgiveness for salvation? Sorry, NOT there!

The only place after the death of Christ where people are told to confess their sins to God, it is in 1John 1:9. This portion of scripture was not written to the unborn again believers but those who are already born again believers. You can look as much as you like but you will not find one single place where unborn again people are told to confess their sins to God for forgiveness.

Rom 10:9-10 says to confess Jesus as your Lord and the one you will follow and obey.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luk 17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Without repentance we cannot be saved. To Repent is to confess our wrong-doing to the one we afflict and our actions should bear it out. Luke suggests that even when our actions dont bear us out, the confession may nevertheless be genuine and should be forgiven.

While one might argue then that with Jesus this is an ongoing practice for the maintenance of salvation, according to acts we should then be baptised everytime we repent, making it a daily ritual. Other scriptures tell us that repentance unto Christ comes through belief, faith in Jesus. Paul and Silas tell us in Acts 16 "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL be saved" Peter tells us that Christ died "once for all". The scriptures mentioned above would suggest that indeed repentance unto God for salvation requires a confession of sin and Godlessness, offering the blood of Christ in our stead for the remission of our sins. At which time, as other passages tell us, we are dead and risen in Christ and baptised in the Holy Spirit, the outward symbol of which is water baptism, a ritual to be performed just once.

Adendem:

Cant believe I missed this one too...

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, [even] in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Repentance unto God requires confession of our sin to show that we recognise our error. I might ask you preacher, did you ask the Lord for salvation or did you wait for it to fall into your lap? When that repentance unto salvation is rewared with the gift of eternal life, the new creation witinesses or confesses of their continuing lapse into sins for love of God and desire for righteousness not for salvation but for sanctification and justification.

[thepreacher]

NewPilgrim,

Your first two examples were prior to the death of Jesus Christ but still worthy of mention.

Luke 13:3 Yes repentance is still required.

Luke 17:4 This is a brother in Christ sinning against another brother in Christ. It would not be implying an unborn again sinning. And not after the death of Jesus an asking for forgiveness under the new covenant for salvation. Like I mentioned there is only one scripture saying to ask for forgiveness of your sins and that is for born again believers only and not for a precursor to salvation.

The Lord is our brother once we are saved, then we can ask 70 times 7 per day.

Act 2:38

The word

[Guest Adonijah]

John 3:3 " Except a man be born again he cannot even see the kingdom of God"

Jesus said it, and I believe it.