eric Posted May 20, 2006 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Humbling your self before the cross in repentance and asking Christ to forgive you of your sins and come into your life and fill you with His holy spirit, is not a tradition. It's a requirement for the salvation for your soul. IMO. Even pagans follow some sort of tradition. Like washing their hands before eating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael333 Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 Humbling your self before the cross in repentance and asking Christ to forgive you of your sins and come into your life and fill you with His holy spirit, is not a tradition. It's a requirement for the salvation for your soul. IMO. Even pagans follow some sort of tradition. Like washing their hands before eating The indefectible Church: The task is to determine what constitutes authentic tradition. How can we know which traditions are apostolic and which are merely human? The answer is the same as how we know which scriptures are apostolic and which are merely human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Tradition you say. The Bible clearly spells out that Peter was married but according to the Catholic church, all priests are to be single. Reconcile that one since Peter was obviously married! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Michael333 asks, And that brings up another point. How do you know what constitutes the New Testament canon? How do you know for certain that these 27 books here in the New Testament are in fact inspired and should be in the New Testament? And how do you know for certain that maybe some inspired books haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2006 Michael333 asks, And that brings up another point. How do you know what constitutes the New Testament canon? How do you know for certain that these 27 books here in the New Testament are in fact inspired and should be in the New Testament? And how do you know for certain that maybe some inspired books haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2006 Theory #1 The whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael333 Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 Tradition you say. The Bible clearly spells out that Peter was married but according to the Catholic church, all priests are to be single. Reconcile that one since Peter was obviously married! You are absolutely correct when you say Peter was married, BUT you confuse or are unaware of the teachings of the church. Attacks on priestly celibacy come in a number of different forms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael333 Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 Michael333 asks, And that brings up another point. How do you know what constitutes the New Testament canon? How do you know for certain that these 27 books here in the New Testament are in fact inspired and should be in the New Testament? And how do you know for certain that maybe some inspired books haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael333 Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 HI Michael, It might be helpful is you would state your Theory #2 in a sentence or two. It seems that you defended "it" but never actually state what "it" is. Thanks, F Theory #2: Divine revelation is transmitted in two ways: through Scripture and apostolic tradition. The Catholic Church bases her teaching upon one source: The word of God. This divine revelation is transmitted in two ways: through Scripture and apostolic tradition. Many assume that only the writings of the apostles are the word of God. However, their oral transmission of the faith is also considered the word of God (1 Thess. 2:13). Few Protestant groups today accept the validity, let alone the authority, of tradition. In fact, many believe that Scripture is the only definitive source of divine truth. For this reason, they are critical of certain doctrines of the Catholic Church, which, according to them, have no basis in Scripture. In fact, those who embrace the theory of sola scriptura attempt to use the Bible to contradict, to prove baseless, certain Church teachings, such as the Real Presence and the existence of purgatory. However, these teachings are reflected in Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted May 21, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2006 Tradition you say. The Bible clearly spells out that Peter was married but according to the Catholic church, all priests are to be single. Reconcile that one since Peter was obviously married! You are absolutely correct when you say Peter was married, BUT you confuse or are unaware of the teachings of the church. Attacks on priestly celibacy come in a number of different forms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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