The Way of the Master

[Guest cargohome]

Ok, my question is: (wether it be "cookie cutter" witnessing or not), what are YOU doing to tell people about the Blood shed of Jesus Christ? Are you just keeping it to yourself because you don't want to use the "cookie cutter" approach!? The Way of the Master is a teaching method of witnessing, and as i'm sure you all know we don't all write our alphabet the exact way we were taught! So, put your own personality into it and God will use you with or without the "cookie cutter" method! I got alot of new approaches from that site. God uses what he wants to use when you are doing it for Him!!!!!!

Love In Christ,

Rachel

[Keith]

What The Way of the Master is doing right is showing people that they have a need for a Savior. They are presenting the full gospel to people.

Jesus never tried to woo people into the kingdom through benefits or personal gain. Today's churches are full of an incomplete gospel, wooing people into the magical Sinner's Prayer so they can be part of the Born Again Club. Most are not telling people about the price they need to pay by counting the cost, surrendering their lives fully to Him, picking up their cross and following Jesus in your lifestyle. Salvation is a lifestyle, not a belief. That's why our churches are so full of people who proclaim to know Christ but deny Him by their lifestyles.

Actually Jesus did use "felt needs" as a bridge to their real needs. He demonstrated love through meeting felt needs so that He could bring them to a reality of their real needs. The most effective evangelism takes place in the context of established relationships. It is in those relationships where the integrity and love of the believer can be seen and experienced by the unsaved person, that the best chance for seeing Jesus occurs. They must trust us before they will hear our truth

Exactly. Jesus met their needs. Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I had hoped. I meant that he didn't use the benefits of His kingdom to lure people into making a decision for Him. He showed people their needs, met them, and used them to show them their need for a Savior. He didn't use salvation as "fire insurance" or tell people that they wouldn't have anymore problems or that they would be magically taken care of. He didn't entice them with the positive without explaining that they would need to count the cost, take up their cross and follow Him. He didn't say that all it takes is to say a magical prayer and BOOM they're in. He expressed that it's a heartfelt decision and lifestyle. He told them about the wonders of it but also the other side of it - the cost.

[nebula]

Ok, my question is: (wether it be "cookie cutter" witnessing or not), what are YOU doing to tell people about the Blood shed of Jesus Christ? . . .

Yeah - I was thinking along the same lines.

If they are bringing people to a saving knowledge of Jesus, then whatever they are doing can't be all that wrong, huh?

It may not be "your" way, but how many people are you bringing into the Kingdom?

I say the Lord bless them and keep reaching the lost!

[Guest cargohome]

Ok, my question is: (wether it be "cookie cutter" witnessing or not), what are YOU doing to tell people about the Blood shed of Jesus Christ? . . .

Yeah - I was thinking along the same lines.

If they are bringing people to a saving knowledge of Jesus, then whatever they are doing can't be all that wrong, huh?

It may not be "your" way, but how many people are you bringing into the Kingdom?

I say the Lord bless them and keep reaching the lost!

Amen Nebula!

[Floatingaxe]

Ok, my question is: (wether it be "cookie cutter" witnessing or not), what are YOU doing to tell people about the Blood shed of Jesus Christ? Are you just keeping it to yourself because you don't want to use the "cookie cutter" approach!? The Way of the Master is a teaching method of witnessing, and as i'm sure you all know we don't all write our alphabet the exact way we were taught! So, put your own personality into it and God will use you with or without the "cookie cutter" method! I got alot of new approaches from that site. God uses what he wants to use when you are doing it for Him!!!!!!

Love In Christ,

Rachel

Amen, Rachel!

I have taken Ray and Kirks' seminar when they were in Ottawa about three summers ago, and found the teaching invaluable! Ray stresses the fact that we are encountering people who have been falsely converted to Christ, hearing only that when one accepts Christ, their lives would become wonderful and they would be happy--when that doesn't happen--as we all know it doesn't become problem-free, then they become disillusioned, and lose their way. We also encounter so many people who just are not convicted of sin--the Ten Commandments reveal our sinfulness. So, that is what Ray and Kirk emphasize. Both these types of individuals need to come to repentence, and we as a Church have neglected that message of the gospel for a long time. The feel-good gospel has taken over and brought so much heartache and disillusionment. Praise God for Ray's vision!

It is not a "cookie-cutter" witnessing tool--it is an education for us, and a wake-up call!

You are so right, Rachel, when you say that we can add our own personality to these things, and God will use it and bless it, and be glorified by it!

Blessings!

[EricH]

I think it was D.L. Moody who had a person criticize him for the way he was doing evangelism. He aksed her how many people she had led to Christ in the last year. She said none. Moody responded that he would stick with his incorrect method of seing people come to Christ, that her correct non-action

[apothanein kerdos]

Since when was the quanity of people led to Christ of anymore quality than the way we did it? You lead 1,000 people to Christ in one year using a method and I lead one person in ten years. Of your 1,000, you disciple none and leave them to the wind. Of my one I disciple him and help him along the way. Who has done the greater good?

Yes, leading people to Christ is wonderful, but the problem with these methods is they offer absolutely zero discipleship. It's like bringing a new born babe into the world and then putting him in a dumpster.

As for the quote from D.L. Moody, the lady was right to question him and criticize him, but I'll leave that right there.

I think we forget that more often than not, these people who "say a prayer" (such as at Moody's revivals) are not truly saved, it's an emotional experience. Though people can come to Christ through any method, just because we get someone to say a prayer and get a notch on our belt doesn' tmean we have done the right thing. I say if people know how many they have led to Christ then their priorites are in the wrong place.