Worthy News: California power goes to the brink - CNN

[George]

Scorching heat pushed California's electricity supply to the brink Monday as authorities investigated at least 29 possible heat-related deaths, most in the smoldering Central Valley where temperatures reached 115 degrees over the weekend.

http://www.worthynews.com/news/edition-cnn...section-cnn_us/

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

River,

Knowing God and being one of His children.

Do you believe that us pitiful human beings can really have that big of an impact on the Eco Systems of this beautiful Creation? Yes, I understand we are to be stewards of this Creation and this sector of Gods Creation. However at this current time we are behind enemy lines and are really agents of Gods Kingdom. We are travelling through here to our final destination. Not that we dismiss our stewardship either. It would just seem to me that the way to change the course of History and to help make Good Stewards. Is to make Good Christians. To actually Preach the Gospel and Create new Disciples.

I also believe that as the Bible states. This world is fading fast like a sinking ship. This does not alleviate us of our obligations as Stewards. Yet I also believe that as the condition rapidly deteriorates. We ought to be more so about our Fathers business.

I honestly don't believe that we humans and our activity, for all our barvado, can destroy the earth. Our sin certainly has tainted Gods Creation and we are responsible for this. The only way out in my sincere belief is through the atonement of Jesus Christ.

He is coming to make all things new. Even now His desaire is to re-make all of mankind in His image. Removing the marring principle of sin.

The Lord Bless you River.

Peace,

Dave

[Marnie]

And Global warming is a just a Liberal created myth.....

The fact that we (mankind) is the sole cause of global warming is most certainly a myth. CA's problem is not the environment, but years of liberal policies concerning the production of energy, price controls, regulation, and so on.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Marnie,

While I tend to agree with your views.

I do also see that in part we are responsible for the situation. As we humankind unleashed sin upon this part of the Creation by agreeing with satan and not our Heavenly Father. We took part in the Rebellion and spread sin all over this part of the Creation. Over which God gave us agency. We simply gave our agency to another. Thus the continual degeneration of the earth. Until the Lord comes.

Thank God He is Merciful.

Peace,

Dave

[Marnie]

Grace to you,

Marnie,

While I tend to agree with your views.

I do also see that in part we are responsible for the situation. As we humankind unleashed sin upon this part of the Creation by agreeing with satan and not our Heavenly Father. We took part in the Rebellion and spread sin all over this part of the Creation. Over which God gave us agency. We simply gave our agency to another. Thus the continual degeneration of the earth. Until the Lord comes.

Thank God He is Merciful.

Peace,

Dave

We agree: sin is ruining this world. It will not, however, destroy the world; this the Bible does not teach. Nor do I believe that "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is necessarily sin. In other words, I do not think our North American prosperity and lifestyle is to blame. We need only look at the third world nations belching out pollution in unthinkable amounts to see where the damage is coming from.

We have no argument, Dave.

[nebula]

Yes, it is a scientific fact that our globe is warmer than it was about 30 years ago when scientists were threatening global cooling leading to another ice age.

The debate, though, is the cause - is it natural or man-made or a mixture of both.

Temperatures have been this high before; unfortunately we didn't have the global monitoring back then that we do now to compare accurately.

I have also heard that the reason we are seeing a rise in ocean waters has more to do with a "warping" if you will of the globe - that is the African continent is rising and the American continent is falling. I'm not sure where to find verification for this, but it would be interesting to check out.

That being said, there is a verse in Revelation mentioning God's judgment against the evildoers, and in the list of judgments is the phrase "destroying those who destroy the earth."

So, there is that element we do need to consider.

As for California, I do recall from the last time CA had a power outage problem, as was mentioned above, that CA has a lousy power grid system. It seems, then, they haven't fixed the problem yet.

[georgesbluegirl]

no, we didn't have monitoring devices a few centuries ago...but we CAN tell temperatures from past millennia, incidentally. ice core drilling can be used to check CO2 levels (which, incidentally, goes hand in hand with climate fluctuation), and more direct evidence comes from geological evidence (like glacial moraines), pollen checks, etc. so we know enough to know that climate change IN AND OF ITSELF is the exception rather than the rule.

where scientists have disagreed in the past is, as you pointed out, nebula, whether the current warmer trend has anthropogenic origins.

at this point, the evidence points to yes. climatologists and meterologists will almost all tell you similarly. the fact is that since the industrial revolution, there has been an upper trend that is much more severe than other historical trends.

and if you think about it, it makes sense! we are emitting all kinds of gases in huge quantities in a way that has never been done before, gases that we KNOW trap heat in the atmosphere. oceanic temperatures are rising, flood stages are increasing, and glaciers are melting - very severely in many places. it is a problem that must be addressed - and the US is one of the main culprits in the problem. i personally believe that it is our responsibility to not only work on addressing the issue of GHG emissions with green technology (which by the way has the upshot of reducing our dependence on expensive foreign oil...) such as hydrogen fuel cells, but to assist rapidly developing nations such as india and china in implementing this technology, so that they don't make the same "mistakes" we did.

in any case, even one of my very republican military uncles (who happens to be a meterologist) admitted to me that he thinks it's time to step up and address global warming, which i consider to be a small, although somewhat bitter, victory in our ongoing argument about environmental policy.

if we accept that God granted us stewardship of the planet, how can we not respect the earth enough to make conscious decisions in order to protect it? God entrusted humans with his greatest work - Creation. let's try to prove ourselves worthy stewards by showing His love to the world that has been granted us.

[georgesbluegirl]

SORRY - what i meant to say was that climate change is the RULE RATHER THAN THE EXCEPTION!

duh. that was an important part of my point! oops...

PS: as an environmental studies major, i feel it is my duty to recommend "an inconvenient truth." please put aside your feelings about al gore, remember that he actually was criticized by democrats when he served as vp for pushing this too much - this is an ETHICAL cause rather than a political one.

peace

KEG