Good information on 'Born Gay' Studies

[Guest LadyC]

Face it. no one knows what is right or wrong. We just follow our hearts, do we not? It is there we find ourselves to be guided toward our own beacon. Therefore, our inner selves is the right path. A path to your beliefs, or to mine.

very popular (but humanistic and incorrect) rationalization.

ok, let me ask you this. let's say you have a child. you tell your child not to bite. or spit. or cuss. or whatever. your child does it anyway, even though you have told him not to. do you excuse the child's behaviour because "well, nobody knows what is right or wrong"...? even though you have taught your child that there are rules and consequences and that biting/spitting/cussing/whatever is a violation of those rules?

if you have passed the test to obtain a legal driver's license, you know that there are certain laws, or rules, that we must abide by. if you go speeding at 60 mph through a 15 mph school zone, you're violating the rules. are you going to tell the judge you should be exempt from a fine because "nobody really knows what is right or wrong"....? or do you know that you messed up and did something wrong when you sped through the intersection narrowly missing a dozen six year olds?

justaguy, God is our Heavenly Father. He is our final authority. HE established rules that we are to abide by. whether you agree with them or not is irrelevant to the fact that He makes the rules and when we violate them, we are wrong.

whether you believe in God or not, you have an engrained knowledge that murdering your next door neighbor because his dog was barking last night is WRONG. that is not "your inner self" making up those directions to some vague and indefinable "right path". that is God's law that you are following, even if you don't acknowledge Him as the author.

[Ovedya]

Pedophile are our problems. Gays are not. Serial killers are a problem. Abortionist are not.

Abortionists ARE serial killers!

[Ovedya]

Ah, I see. So are you right or wrong about what you just wrote?

Neither? Yet your statement imply that you are trying to have me to VIEW you 'right' about an issue. Not very consistent are we?

Face it. no one knows what is right or wrong. We just follow our hearts, do we not? It is there we find ourselves to be guided toward our own beacon. Therefore, our inner selves is the right path. A path to your beliefs, or to mine.

Who is right or wrong? The one's own path to inner self.

Kumbaya!

How very "Zen" of you justaguy.

You know something interesting about a man who lives in the dark all of his life? He doesn't actually know that's he's in the dark until he sees that light. Even then he cannot comprehend it because he knows it not.

I'm not after being right. I'm after you being able to comprehend what light is.

[Guest LadyC]

there is no room for misinterpretation on many things God tells us, justaguy. and homosexual activity is one of those things in which there is no such room. He makes it unmistakably and undeniably clear what His law is on that issue.

[Ovedya]

Pedophile are our problems. Gays are not. Serial killers are a problem. Abortionist are not.

Abortionists ARE serial killers!

Hmmmm nice try. You know exactly what I mean.

Sure I do. But they still are.

[Ovedya]

there is no room for misinterpretation on many things God tells us, justaguy. and homosexual activity is one of those things in which there is no such room. He makes it unmistakably and undeniably clear what His law is on that issue.

I have a lecture to performed to students.

[Guest LadyC]

I don't listen very well? you're the one still insisting that homosexual acts are not a violation of God's law and stating that nobody can know the difference between right and wrong.

[Floatingaxe]

there is no room for misinterpretation on many things God tells us, justaguy. and homosexual activity is one of those things in which there is no such room. He makes it unmistakably and undeniably clear what His law is on that issue.

Gosh LadyC.

You don't listen very well. I'll return later. I have a lecture to performed to students.

I hope it's not English!

[Guest LadyC]

ya know, it wouldn't matter whether we agreed with it or not. simple fact is, those who do not repent and turn from the sin of homosexual activity will not enter the kingdom of heaven. God's rules, not ours.

what would be unfair is to let people continue in the delusion that they can gratify their own desires without any remorse or repentance and suffer no eternal consequences.

i'll let myself imagine a tormented soul in hell asking me "why didn't you TELL me?" i wonder how i should respond... maybe "because i didn't care" or "because i was too chicken" or "because i thought it would be more fair to let you do what you want and spend eternity blaming me".

no thanks.

the fair thing to do is tell them what the eternal consequences are and then let them be accountable for their own decisions.

[Guest LadyC]

only the secular world is discounting it. the PC world.

this isn't about being a choice of a straight person. it's about being a choice to act or not to act. period. in God's eyes we are all equal... there is no straight, bi, or homosexual. there are just people who choose to act according to His will or in opposition to it.

the only measure of equality in His kingdom is "those who knew Him", "those who didn't", and "those who exchanged the truth for a lie".