The Toronto Blessing, and Benny Hinn, etc

[LadyRaven]

Neb, I don't want to speak for LadyRaven but I believe SIC stand for Sister In Christ.

****lights flashing, music playing, horns blowing*******

You win the prize!!!

[nebula]

I do believe they occur occasionally or at least they can, just not as often as Charismatic ministries insist they can and do.

That's because the US and other Western societies are much like those towns Jesus could not perform many miracles in - lack of faith.

I hear testimonies from missionaries all the time (and these are people I interact with, not TV/radio people) who have been to places like Brazil and India and people were healed right and left.

[st. Worm]

If you are willing to include Hinn and his type under the umbrella of Christianity then you should have no problems with JW's or Mormons or even Muslims.

I have issues with attacks on Hinn et al becoming attacks on the the power of the Holy Spirit.

And that's all Cessationist do.

As I also recall, you are one of the first to pounce on Roman Catholics

No.

I have debated Catholic practices - but not Catholics themselves.

You should learn the difference.

That's a slick Hinn technique, hiding behind the Holy Spirit and claiming to be God's annointed. His only annointing is by the devil.

sw

SW, comparing what Neb is doing to what Hinn has done is not too slick of a move by you. While I may not see the fruits from Hinn, I have seen them from Neb and I, for one, think you owe her an apology. Also, even though I don't think Hinn is the real deal, we need to be cautious in saying someone is anointed by Satan.

Just a second now Ronald. What do you perceive that I said that deserves an apology? I have not compared anything nebula did to Hinn. Where are you getting that? When I said Hinn has a slick technique of hiding behind the HS, I was not implying nebula does the same thing. Was that your assumption?

sw

[billie]

Good post, Horizon....

[billie]

Prophecies are given for a reason. If a prophecy is given, and then circumstances change, the prophecy will not come to pass. If a prophecy is given, and great amonts of intercessory prayer go up, or people repent; then it will not come to pass. This is Biblical. That is why Jonah was so mad that the people of Ninevah repented. When they repented, it turned God's wrath. It made Jonah look like a false prophet.

Jonah was mad the people of Ninevah repented because Ninevah was the capital of Assyria, Israel's enemy.

[st. Worm]

Jesus said,

[st. Worm]

Jesus said,

[st. Worm]

Jesus said,

[LadyRaven]

Prophecies are given for a reason. If a prophecy is given, and then circumstances change, the prophecy will not come to pass. If a prophecy is given, and great amonts of intercessory prayer go up, or people repent; then it will not come to pass. This is Biblical. That is why Jonah was so mad that the people of Ninevah repented. When they repented, it turned God's wrath. It made Jonah look like a false prophet.

Jonah was mad the people of Ninevah repented because Ninevah was the capital of Assyria, Israel's enemy.

That is what the Sunday School Bible stories say. I think if you will re-read the book, you will come to the conclusion that He was mad because his prophecy did not come true. It made him look like a false prophet.

It matters not why Jonah was mad. The Bible says God relented because Ninevah repented. The circumstances of Hinn's Prophecies have not changed, in fact they've gotten worse. Yet his prophecies have not come true, and thus as scripture says we are not to listen to him as He does not speak for the Lord. He's a false prophet.

Now I could understand the reaction of "I'll go investigate this and if what you say is correct I will stand with you/pray for him/repudiate any support of him"...as this would mean that you have not heard these things and are hesitant to believe them but...want to know the truth.

I don't understand trying to justify his teachings though.

[LadyRaven]

No, I think the Homosexual community is being destroyed by Fire. It is being ravaged by AIDS.

AIDS is not fire.