Latter Rain/MSOG heresies in our pews?

[traveller]

I have left a congregation (independent/non-denom/pentecostal bent) because elements of the Latter Rain and Manifested Sons of God (maybe Moral Government Theology) are infiltrating it.

The elements seem innocuous enough taken as activities of God's people unless you know the back story. God led me to the sources of information about these heresies.

Are you seeing, undertaking:

Harp and bowl (and sceptre) services

River Revival

the City Church

Boiler rooms (24/7 prayer)

The Unity

five-fold ministry

The new thing

?????

My interest in this is in combating the heresy. Taken individually, none of these seem like a problem as I said. We should pray, we should praise, we should come together as one...

I am hoping that some of you have some experience of this and can pray (knowingly) for me and perhaps assist me in what I can or should do.

Because of what I learned, I left my congregation but can a child of God leave others in darkness?

Let's stay on topic. I know that the five-fold ministry is included in this post, but specifically this is about the MSOG and the LatterRain cults. And, the OP is asking if anyone has had first-hand knowledge of this.

[nebula]

Muskogee, Deni, Kasua, Balangigi, Rawat, Takwane, Ghadames, Southern Puebla Mixtec,

If I just rattled these names off to you, would you not think I was speaking gibberish?

Aari Omejes Nete Vlaams Zaramo Hak

[nebula]

Sorry Trav - I was on a roll.

Again, no pun intended.

[Floatingaxe]

1 Corinthians 14...

2For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

or...

1-3Go after a life of love as if your life depended on it

[traveller]

I have left a congregation (independent/non-denom/pentecostal bent) because elements of the Latter Rain and Manifested Sons of God (maybe Moral Government Theology) are infiltrating it.

The elements seem innocuous enough taken as activities of God's people unless you know the back story. God led me to the sources of information about these heresies.

Are you seeing, undertaking:

Harp and bowl (and sceptre) services

River Revival

the City Church

Boiler rooms (24/7 prayer)

The Unity

five-fold ministry

The new thing

?????

My interest in this is in combating the heresy. Taken individually, none of these seem like a problem as I said. We should pray, we should praise, we should come together as one...

I am hoping that some of you have some experience of this and can pray (knowingly) for me and perhaps assist me in what I can or should do.

Because of what I learned, I left my congregation but can a child of God leave others in darkness?

Let's stay on topic. I know that the five-fold ministry is included in this post, but specifically this is about the MSOG and the LatterRain cults. And, the OP is asking if anyone has had first-hand knowledge of this.

[Arthur Durnan]

Whatever earthly, national, literal language one prays in is one's prayer language. NOWHERE in Holy Writ - be sure to grasp this point now - NOWHERE in Holy Writ do we have even one example of anyone speaking in an unintelligible gibberish to Almighty God, try as you may to get around it. A foreign earth language is used when a person listening requires such: if a person understands but Urdu, one should speak to him in Urdu - but NEVER in a "divine mumbo-jumbo"! I underscore again for our charismatic friends wrapped up in non-sensical non-language....NOWHERE does Holy Writ tell us to mumble uninitelligible make-up-as-you-go gibberish. NOWHERE. The CLASSIC passage on languages - Acts 2:8-11 - reveals to us that all languages spoken at Pentecost were KNOWN, EARTHLY, UNDERSTOOD languages, not baby-like goo-goo. If one insists on off-the-cuff mish-mash in opposition to Acts 2:8-11 which establishes languages as KNOWN, EARTHLY languages, then one will have to obliterate the CLASSIC passage on the subject. Again, the Soverieign God READILY UNDERSTANDS English, Francais, Spanish, Mandarin, Arabic, Hebrew et al as both spoken and as prayer language. Why speak absolutely UNKNOWN MUMBO-JUMBO to the Savior when His Holy Word lends no credence to it? The Lord God is the Master Linguist in the world & is much more intelligent than some kind folk would insist on making Him out to be!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[nebula]

No bloviating!

[billie]

No bloviating!

Um, what's that, Neb?

[nebula]

bloviate \BLOH-vee-ayt\, intransitive verb:

To speak or write at length in a pompous or boastful manner.

Source

[Floatingaxe]

Whatever earthly, national, literal language one prays in is one's prayer language. NOWHERE in Holy Writ - be sure to grasp this point now - NOWHERE in Holy Writ do we have even one example of anyone speaking in an unintelligible gibberish to Almighty God, try as you may to get around it. A foreign earth language is used when a person listening requires such: if a person understands but Urdu, one should speak to him in Urdu - but NEVER in a "divine mumbo-jumbo"! I underscore again for our charismatic friends wrapped up in non-sensical non-language....NOWHERE does Holy Writ tell us to mumble uninitelligible make-up-as-you-go gibberish. NOWHERE. The CLASSIC passage on languages - Acts 2:8-11 - reveals to us that all languages spoken at Pentecost were KNOWN, EARTHLY, UNDERSTOOD languages, not baby-like goo-goo. If one insists on off-the-cuff mish-mash in opposition to Acts 2:8-11 which establishes languages as KNOWN, EARTHLY languages, then one will have to obliterate the CLASSIC passage on the subject. Again, the Soverieign God READILY UNDERSTANDS English, Francais, Spanish, Mandarin, Arabic, Hebrew et al as both spoken and as prayer language. Why speak absolutely UNKNOWN MUMBO-JUMBO to the Savior when His Holy Word lends no credence to it? The Lord God is the Master Linguist in the world & is much more intelligent than some kind folk would insist on making Him out to be!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

Now you are sounding quite ridiculous. Who makes it up? It is a language given to me by the Holy Spirit, and you cannot denounce that! Nowhere does it say that it is always an earthly tongue. Nowhere! Get a dose of the Spirit and you will certainly see. You have to ask for it, but alas that may be asking a bit much of you.

I will continue as millions of us do, praising and praying in tongues before the Lord! God bless you, Arthur, dear.