Biblical Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage...

[MeCajunboy]

fair enough

my understanding of scripture is pretty simplistic. God allows for divorce but really doesn't like it. He has allowed for it because of the hardening of man's hearts.

a believer married to an unbeliever should not seek a divorce. if the unbeliever files for a divorce, the believer is not bound to the unbeliever any more. he or she can remarry.

if a couple has divorced, and one has remarried, and subsequently finds himself/herself divorced from spouse #2, spouse #1 is off limits. they should not be remarried.

if a person has committed ANY sin, no matter WHAT it is, be it adultry or fornication or prostitution or divorce or lying or stealing or even murder, and later repents and is reconciled to God, their past sins are forgiven and forgotten and they are washed clean and become a new creature. thus they do not sin if they marry. divorce is not the unforgivable sin that so many like to believe it is.

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

[FighterforJC]

are we allowed to use "Feminazi" on these boards?

[Guest LadyC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

[FighterforJC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

I agree with you 100%. But still, you can't remarry until the guy's dead.

[Guest LadyC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

I agree with you 100%. But still, you can't remarry until the guy's dead.

mmmm, i'm not denying that you shouldn't remarry. but can't? that implies that a christian who commits the sin of an unbiblical divorce is not capable of repenting and being FORGIVEN until the spouse is dead. you sure you want to go there?

note: i am NOT saying, in any way, shape, or form, that a christian should ever commit a sin with the "i'll be forgiven' escape clause in the back of their mind. i accepted Christ as my saviour at the ripe old age of 7. i wasn't living my life for him at the time of my first marriage or its subsequent divorce, but i WAS a christian. thank God my relationship with Christ has been restored, and i am no longer under the bondage of my past sins.

[FighterforJC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

I agree with you 100%. But still, you can't remarry until the guy's dead.

mmmm, i'm not denying that you shouldn't remarry. but can't? that implies that a christian who commits the sin of an unbiblical divorce is not capable of repenting and being FORGIVEN until the spouse is dead. you sure you want to go there?

note: i am NOT saying, in any way, shape, or form, that a christian should ever commit a sin with the "i'll be forgiven' escape clause in the back of their mind. i accepted Christ as my saviour at the ripe old age of 7. i wasn't living my life for him at the time of my first marriage or its subsequent divorce, but i WAS a christian. thank God my relationship with Christ has been restored, and i am no longer under the bondage of my past sins.

You "can" do whatever you please. But yes, it very much sounds like you're carrying the "I'll be forgiven escape clause." Which is a good testimony of our sick and twisted and depraved heart condition, even as Christians. We all need a savior.

[Guest LadyC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

I agree with you 100%. But still, you can't remarry until the guy's dead.

mmmm, i'm not denying that you shouldn't remarry. but can't? that implies that a christian who commits the sin of an unbiblical divorce is not capable of repenting and being FORGIVEN until the spouse is dead. you sure you want to go there?

note: i am NOT saying, in any way, shape, or form, that a christian should ever commit a sin with the "i'll be forgiven' escape clause in the back of their mind. i accepted Christ as my saviour at the ripe old age of 7. i wasn't living my life for him at the time of my first marriage or its subsequent divorce, but i WAS a christian. thank God my relationship with Christ has been restored, and i am no longer under the bondage of my past sins.

You "can" do whatever you please. But yes, it very much sounds like you're carrying the "I'll be forgiven escape clause." Which is a good testimony of our sick and twisted and depraved heart condition, even as Christians. We all need a savior.

well since you're making such a bold assumption, it sounds as though you're referring to me as having a sick, twisted, and depraved heart condition.

you're wrong. i never used the 'i'll be forgiven' escape clause, and it should never be anyone's mentality. i spent the following ten years after my divorce drawing close to God and allowing HIM to be my husband. HE saw fit to bring mark into my life for the purpose of marriage.... and had it been up to my standards, i'd have never chosen mark for myself.

[FighterforJC]

Cajunboy::::While I agree that God allows for divorce LadyC, I believe we will find in the NT and in Paul, where Jesus noted that HIS Father commanded that man/woman may only divorce in the case of "adultery." If you find other reasons, please respond...but this was the only thing I found that was very specific in this area of divorce.. And I wouldn't be surprised if things like "abuse" or "selflessness" fall into the catagories of "adultery!"

Blessings

Cajunboy

adultry is the only one mentioned in scripture. i'll leave the debate over what constitutes adultry to someone else. my understanding of scripture is that adultry is sexual infidelity. that being said, i will readily admit that if i were being beaten on a regular basis and felt my life was in danger, i'd run for my life and let God deal with me later, right or wrong.

I agree with you 100%. But still, you can't remarry until the guy's dead.

mmmm, i'm not denying that you shouldn't remarry. but can't? that implies that a christian who commits the sin of an unbiblical divorce is not capable of repenting and being FORGIVEN until the spouse is dead. you sure you want to go there?

note: i am NOT saying, in any way, shape, or form, that a christian should ever commit a sin with the "i'll be forgiven' escape clause in the back of their mind. i accepted Christ as my saviour at the ripe old age of 7. i wasn't living my life for him at the time of my first marriage or its subsequent divorce, but i WAS a christian. thank God my relationship with Christ has been restored, and i am no longer under the bondage of my past sins.

You "can" do whatever you please. But yes, it very much sounds like you're carrying the "I'll be forgiven escape clause." Which is a good testimony of our sick and twisted and depraved heart condition, even as Christians. We all need a savior.

well since you're making such a bold assumption, it sounds as though you're referring to me as having a sick, twisted, and depraved heart condition.

you're wrong. i never used the 'i'll be forgiven' escape clause, and it should never be anyone's mentality. i spent the following ten years after my divorce drawing close to God and allowing HIM to be my husband. HE saw fit to bring mark into my life for the purpose of marriage.... and had it been up to my standards, i'd have never chosen mark for myself.

No really, I'm just making a general statement. Not calling you anything. Everything hapens as ordained by God from before the foundations of the world, including wrong or sinful acts. Heck, God allowed the murder of His own Son, and the best thing came out of it. I don't doubt at all that God had a wonderful purpose that worked through your initial disobedience.

[FighterforJC]

First of all, I'm not advocating reveng, 2nd of all, even if I were, it doesn't make my statement false. Glad to know I'm the only hypocrite on these boards.

I'm not calling you a hypocrite. I'm saying, as I have always said, that all of us have not-so-pretty things in our lives that we don't want to see the light of day, but there are people who want to post threads like this one in the guise of 'education' when what they are really doing is pointing a finger, judging, and trying to feel better about themselves in the process.

It is very easy to draw a line in the sand, and say "God hates divorce. Don't do it." when you have never been divorced. It is easy to say "hang in there" when you have never been abused by a spouse, or had one try to kill you.

The main problem is this: Those of us who have been divorced and re-married get a little tire of constantly being told that we have some kind of taint on us that just won't wash off no matter what we do. We are supposed to walk around with our heads hung down in shame because we can just never again quite measure up to those who have never been divorced. I hate to burst their bubble, but that is a bogus belief. Sin is sin and everyone has some in their life. One may lie, the other may be divorced. Doesn't matter, sin is sin, and we all fall short. So I don't hang my head in shame, and I never will.

I don't think anyone's telling the divorcees/remarry-ers on these boards to hang their heads low and walk in shame. What's done is done, but to advocate it is something else. Going back to the original topic... Is divorce permissible? Sometimes. Is it okay for the divorced to remarry? After the ex spouse is dead. What about those who have already remarried while their ex is still alive? That's between them and God, there's forgiveness, of course.

Edited July 18, 2007 by FighterforJC

[AndrewA]

I don't think anyone's telling the divorcees/remarry-ers on these boards to hang their heads low and walk in shame. What's done is done, but to advocate it is something else. Going back to the original topic... Is divorce permissible? Sometimes. Is it okay for the divorced to remarry? After the ex spouse is dead. What about those who have already remarried while their ex is still alive? That's between them and God, there's forgiveness, of course.

Fighter I already asked you where in Bible does this come from? How can you declare such an outrageous comment when Christ says other wise. You are contradicting Christ, how bad is that.

MAtthew 19 v9

I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultry.