fasting

[cupajoy]

pointer what does the bible that you are reading from say in 1co 7:5?

[Openly Curious]

the concept of fasting and prayer are given in Mathew chapter 6

One does not give a concept. Fasting is mentioned, like animal sacrifices, tithing, washing, many other things that are commanded. Nobody could possible deny that. What cannot be found is a command to fast, in OT or NT. It was apparently the Israelites who devised fasting.

Do you not even know what a "concept" is?

For the principles of fasting are found in the word as I have shown. And you keep denying.

OC

[Openly Curious]

There are tremendous blessings that can come through fasting and prayer

Such as?

answers from God

Strength of Spirit and weakness of my flesh

power in prayer and supplications before God

Overcoming the temptations of Satan

gaining victory in spiritual battles

gaining direction in one's life

the list can go on

It seems to me that those who do not fast receive all those benefits, very often more so than those who do fast. It seems to me that every born again person who begins to fast gives it up sooner or later.

Well there is no way that you can really know that is it as you don't believe in the practice sure those who do not fast can recieve blessings and benefits from God but you cannot compare those who practice fasting to those who do not for that is not wise in the first place to do because we as children of God can all receive from God the benefits we have in Him.

Alot of people do give it up because alot of people don't understand what true fasting is and how to practice it in a way to get results with God and they give it up on those grounds but alot of people on the same token give up the faith as well and no longer serve God.

oc

[pointer]

the concept of fasting and prayer are given in Mathew chapter 6

One does not give a concept. Fasting is mentioned, like animal sacrifices, tithing, washing, many other things that are commanded. Nobody could possible deny that. What cannot be found is a command to fast, in OT or NT. It was apparently the Israelites who devised fasting.

Do you not even know what a "concept" is?

Most certainly. One does not give a concept. One gives a command, and the word should not be misused.

For the principles of fasting are found in the word as I have shown.

We have not seen even the principles, let alone a command.

[pointer]

you don't believe in the practice

I do believe in getting facts right.

[Openly Curious]

the concept of fasting and prayer are given in Mathew chapter 6

One does not give a concept. Fasting is mentioned, like animal sacrifices, tithing, washing, many other things that are commanded. Nobody could possible deny that. What cannot be found is a command to fast, in OT or NT. It was apparently the Israelites who devised fasting.

Do you not even know what a "concept" is?

Most certainly. One does not give a concept. One gives a command, and the word should not be misused.

For the principles of fasting are found in the word as I have shown.

We have not seen even the principles, let alone a command.

You do not know what a "concept" is and it is very obvious.

You do not know what "principles" are either and that is also very obvious.

Or you are doing this denial on purpose.

OC

[Openly Curious]

you don't believe in the practice

I do believe in getting facts right.

Then why do you keep denying them and stop discouraging those that do?

oc

[pointer]

you don't believe in the practice

I do believe in getting facts right.

Then why do you keep denying them and stop discouraging those that do?

oc

Quote me.

[cupajoy]

Pointer this is a sincere question, can you quote to me the scripture 1Co 7:5 from the Bible that you are reading from, i am truly trying to understand you're point of view. On why you feel the way you do. and why that you say that I re-posted what may be a satan quote? i am not sure why you are not respondng to me???

[cupajoy]

1CO 7:5 consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

pointer i know you are fixing to enlighten me on things I'm ready , bring it on LOL I am willing to learn I know what i have read , and I know you have other resources that you bring things from, you said that fasting is not in the oldest transscripts which ones are you talking about?

Why did you not ask that question the first time? Why have you re-posted what may be Satan's work?

this is what i am talking about i misquoted the question prior

Edited September 18, 2006 by cupajoy