Worthy News: Jordan: End Israeli occupation, violence will end - Jerus

[Candi770]

Amen Yod, you're right about occupation! Amen Shiloh.

Can the palestinians find a really, really remote island and just be happy???? I

[Arthur Durnan]

GOD BLESS AMERICA INDEED!

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[amor]

Jordan's King Abdullah II said Tuesday that until Israel ends its occupation of Palestinian lands and gives Palestinian their rights, the cycle of violence will continue in the region and its effects will be felt throughout the world.

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When the King of Jordan refers to "Palestinian Lands" he including All of Israel. The uniformed West assumes he only means the West Bank and E. Jerusalem. The violence that Israel is subjected to, predates Israel's presence in the West Bank. If the violence is the product of Israel's presence in the West Bank, how does that account for the fact that the Six Day War started when Israel was not in the WestBank? Furthermore how does it account for the war of independence in 1948 and the Suez War in 1956? How does it account for the decades of terrorism committed against Israel prior to 1967? The root of the violence is Arab/Muslim hatred for Israel, period.

The goal has always been to dismantle Israel completely.

Nonsense as usual, Jordan and Israel signed a peace treaty in 1994 in which Jordan explicity recognises the Pre-1967 Israeli borders. Abdullah here is refering to East Jersusalem and the West Bank.

[Guest shiloh357]

Jordan's King Abdullah II said Tuesday that until Israel ends its occupation of Palestinian lands and gives Palestinian their rights, the cycle of violence will continue in the region and its effects will be felt throughout the world.

http://www.worthynews.com/news/jpost-com-s...rticle-Printer/

When the King of Jordan refers to "Palestinian Lands" he including All of Israel. The uniformed West assumes he only means the West Bank and E. Jerusalem. The violence that Israel is subjected to, predates Israel's presence in the West Bank. If the violence is the product of Israel's presence in the West Bank, how does that account for the fact that the Six Day War started when Israel was not in the WestBank? Furthermore how does it account for the war of independence in 1948 and the Suez War in 1956? How does it account for the decades of terrorism committed against Israel prior to 1967? The root of the violence is Arab/Muslim hatred for Israel, period.

The goal has always been to dismantle Israel completely.

Nonsense as usual, Jordan and Israel signed a peace treaty in 1994 in which Jordan explicity recognises the Pre-1967 Israeli borders. Abdullah here is refering to East Jersusalem and the West Bank.

Paper agreements, contracts, treaties are meaningless in Islam. You are just gullible. Jordan no more recognizes Israel's right to exist than any other Arab country does. The creation of Israel is, in Muslim eyes a reversal of history. It is an insult to Islam because the land of Israel was once under Muslim control, and any land under Muslim control is Muslim land for all eternity. For the state of Israel to be created on Muslim Land and for Arabs to be citizens of a Jewish nation, subject to Jewish sovereignty is something that cannot be tolerated. There is NO Arab country that is not in favor of the complete and utter dismantling of Israel and dispersal of the Jews to be either Dhimmis under Arab control or refugees in other countries.

It is utter foolishness to think that you can force/impose your two-state "solution." The Arabs will not accept it, because they will not allow the Jews to have a nation on the land the Muslim world considers Muslim land.

[amor]

Paper agreements, contracts, treaties are meaningless in Islam. You are just gullible. Jordan no more recognizes Israel's right to exist than any other Arab country does. The creation of Israel is, in Muslim eyes a reversal of history. It is an insult to Islam because the land of Israel was once under Muslim control, and any land under Muslim control is Muslim land for all eternity. For the state of Israel to be created on Muslim Land and for Arabs to be citizens of a Jewish nation, subject to Jewish sovereignty is something that cannot be tolerated. There is NO Arab country that is not in favor of the complete and utter dismantling of Israel and dispersal of the Jews to be either Dhimmis under Arab control or refugees in other countries.

It is utter foolishness to think that you can force/impose your two-state "solution." The Arabs will not accept it, because they will not allow the Jews to have a nation on the Muslim world considers Muslim land.

Yawn Yawn, as always when resort to rant when you errors are highlighted.

[Guest shiloh357]

Paper agreements, contracts, treaties are meaningless in Islam. You are just gullible. Jordan no more recognizes Israel's right to exist than any other Arab country does. The creation of Israel is, in Muslim eyes a reversal of history. It is an insult to Islam because the land of Israel was once under Muslim control, and any land under Muslim control is Muslim land for all eternity. For the state of Israel to be created on Muslim Land and for Arabs to be citizens of a Jewish nation, subject to Jewish sovereignty is something that cannot be tolerated. There is NO Arab country that is not in favor of the complete and utter dismantling of Israel and dispersal of the Jews to be either Dhimmis under Arab control or refugees in other countries.

It is utter foolishness to think that you can force/impose your two-state "solution." The Arabs will not accept it, because they will not allow the Jews to have a nation on the Muslim world considers Muslim land.

Yawn Yawn, as always when resort to rant when you errors are highlighted.

No, they are facts. In Islam treaties are nothing but a gimmick to buy time until their strength is sufficient to take what they want by force. I realize that facts are meaningless to you, but you are impotent to refute them.

[Rebmilc]

Yawn Yawn, as always when resort to rant when you errors are highlighted. (quote)

Got to agree totally with shiloh here amor. You talk about errors highlighted but to be quite honest the facts speak for themselves, and if you cannot see what is really happening and what has been historically proved, you have as much a grasp on the middle east situation as a jaffa orange.

[amor]

Yawn Yawn, as always when resort to rant when you errors are highlighted. (quote)

Got to agree totally with shiloh here amor. You talk about errors highlighted but to be quite honest the facts speak for themselves, and if you cannot see what is really happening and what has been historically proved, you have as much a grasp on the middle east situation as a jaffa orange.

The fact is that Jordan signed a treaty with the Israelis recognising the pre 1967 frontiers, the latter presumably wouldn't have bothered sighning it if they felt it was worthless. Furthermore the Jordanians have long, even before the treaty, had a good day-to-day working relationship.

[O'Dannyboy]

Yawn Yawn, as always when resort to rant when you errors are highlighted. (quote)

Got to agree totally with shiloh here amor. You talk about errors highlighted but to be quite honest the facts speak for themselves, and if you cannot see what is really happening and what has been historically proved, you have as much a grasp on the middle east situation as a jaffa orange.

The fact is that Jordan signed a treaty with the Israelis recognising the pre 1967 frontiers, the latter presumably wouldn't have bothered sighning it if they felt it was worthless. Furthermore the Jordanians have long, even before the treaty, had a good day-to-day working relationship.

Why then does he sound like the violence in the middle east is Israels fault?

[Guest shiloh357]

Jordan's King Abdullah II said Tuesday that until Israel ends its occupation of Palestinian lands and gives Palestinian their rights, the cycle of violence will continue in the region and its effects will be felt throughout the world.

There is no cycle of violence. What he means to say that until Israel bows and scrapes at the feet of the Muslim world and gives into every insane demand with no concrete demonstration from the Arab world that they truly desire peace with Israel, the Arab world will continue to incite, train and fund terrorism against Israel. Israel's response to terrorism does not constitute a "cycle of violence" any more than a policeman having to shoot it out with an armed robber constitutes a "cycle of crime."

"I come before you today with a deep sense of urgency," Abdullah told the 61st session of the United Nations General Assembly. "Never has it been more important for the world community to act decisively for peace in my region."

All that needs to be done for "peace in the region" is for the Arab world to jointly recognize Israel's right to exist on the biblical homeland of the Jews. When they demonstrate that they truly want to live in peace with Israel, there won't be any need for a treaty. When Israel is satisfied that peace has been established, and that it is a serious lasting peace, withdraws can take place.

He said the recent crises in the Middle East - apparently referring to the conflict between Israel and Hizbullah as well as the violence in the Gaza Strip - showed that "there can be no just global order when aggression and occupation are permitted to take the place of international law."

The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife. Jordan's heinous 19 year long legacy of cruelty to the Palestinians is of public record. Palestinians suffered far worse when the West Bank was under Jordanian administration. Furthermore, Jordan helped create the refugee crisis in the first place, not to mention that it was Jordan's aggression in 1967 that made Israel's presence necessary when they attempted sought Israel's destruction a second time inside of 20 years.

"Our youths are asking, 'where is the justice, where is the will of the global community?' We must answer them by establishing a lasting peace based on the international legality we have pledged to uphold," he said.

It is too bad that Arab children are left historically illiterate. They should be asking why the world does exact justice on behalf of the Palestinians from the Arab counrties who not only created the refugee problem, but refuses to solve their problem. Their youth should be asking why the Arab world has only sought to exacerbate the problem for the sake of propaganda points against Israel. They should be asking why the Palestinian people being treated by the Arab world as nothing but political pawns. Therein lies the true human rights violation.