Christian Theocracy

[secondeve]

Bollox. Sorry, but I loathe these kind of arguments. As you'll know from my posts, I have absolutely nothing against homosexuality, but I think that any argument to determine which kind of couple, gay or straight, is more 'loving' is just going to be unfounded. The fact of the matter is that people love differently, in different ways, for different reasons and to different degrees. I know gay & straight men and women in loving, committed relationships, and I know gay & straight men and women who are single and enjoy shopping around. And as far as I'm concerned, that's OK: they're old enough and intelligent enough to be responsible for their actions. So cool. But one thing I cannot and will not stand is sweeping generalisations about sexuality. AAA, you're effectively giving the same kind of reasons for why gay couples are more loving as Floatingaxe is giving for the opposite.

I in no way believe that gay people are more loving than "normal" people, I was just trying to explain a perception I have picked up.

Which is largely unhelpful. I've come across gay articles before which are frankly hostile to the idea of being 'normal' (hetero), and I find them irritating and largely detrimental to the overall idea that being gay is fine, the same as I also dislike articles in the opposite vein, of sledging gayness for its 'abnormality.' As far as I'm concerned, there's no call to go wading into the land of unsubstantiated, universal claims and theories about who loves better and why; all it does is weaken the argument as a whole and sideline the main point, which is, as I'm sure you'd agree, the fact that gay love (in our opinion) is not just misguided lust, and is as legitimate a feeling as that experienced by heterosexuals.

Perhaps I should have been a little more specific - I don't think that gay people are any more loving or close than straight, only that, perhaps due to the luck of the draw, I've observed a bunch of healthy gay couples. Heh.

You're probably right about throwing out a bunch of purely speculative theories about the nature of love, lust, and relationships. I'll just have to keep that in mind next time.

See ya around, Eve.

[Akabu]

Nothing, unless God changes His, and that won't happen. Why should I entertain your arguments beyond just reading them, when I (and countless other believers here at Worthy) know the Truth? Of course you can never convince me! My mind is closed to entertaining sin. That's a good thing! That is the wonderful thing about knowing the Living God--He renews our minds! We learn to think like God, taking on the mind of Christ daily. It changes us totally, as we become more and more like Jesus, and more and more righteous in our behaviours! What a life! He calls us to excellence, drawing us from our knees in the gutters of life to His Life of peace, joy and true love. Who wouldn't want that??????????

Christians walk a narrow path, not a broad path. We are called to it.

Then, Axe, until you are willing to listen, or until you are able to show me specific facts backing up the interpretation of your sect of Christianity on the Bible's passages pertaining to homosexuality in order to change my opinion, I am going to begin ignoring you again.

Nothing personal, you simply contribute nothing towards the goal of meaningful discussion and debate.

1 Cor. 6:9&10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Tim. 1:10 " and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching"

One question:

Why do you always "Ignore" those that refuse to accept what you think when we KNOW it is contrary to the word of God?

Go ahead and ignore me as well if you wish.

[Floatingaxe]

AAA:

What Akabu said! I simply didn't post all the scriptures that speak about homosexuality because I was sure you have heard them all before. My mistake.

I would never ignore you, so why do you choose to ignore me? I read your posts, and disagree. What is so insulting about that? You disagree with all of us about Jesus Christ and we don't ignore you! I think somehow the truth the way I deliver it must somehow strike a chord in you. I pray that is so.

May God open the eyes of your spirit.

[Guest Natures Girl]

Nothing, unless God changes His, and that won't happen. Why should I entertain your arguments beyond just reading them, when I (and countless other believers here at Worthy) know the Truth? Of course you can never convince me! My mind is closed to entertaining sin. That's a good thing! That is the wonderful thing about knowing the Living God--He renews our minds! We learn to think like God, taking on the mind of Christ daily. It changes us totally, as we become more and more like Jesus, and more and more righteous in our behaviours! What a life! He calls us to excellence, drawing us from our knees in the gutters of life to His Life of peace, joy and true love. Who wouldn't want that??????????

Christians walk a narrow path, not a broad path. We are called to it.

Then, Axe, until you are willing to listen, or until you are able to show me specific facts backing up the interpretation of your sect of Christianity on the Bible's passages pertaining to homosexuality in order to change my opinion, I am going to begin ignoring you again.

Nothing personal, you simply contribute nothing towards the goal of meaningful discussion and debate.

1 Cor. 6:9&10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Tim. 1:10 " and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching"

One question:

Why do you always "Ignore" those that refuse to accept what you think when we KNOW it is contrary to the word of God?

Go ahead and ignore me as well if you wish.

What is the greek and aramaic word that is translated as "homosexual"?

[Floatingaxe]

What is the greek and aramaic word that is translated as "homosexual"?

Does it matter? I know what the bible says.

[Akabu]

Nothing, unless God changes His, and that won't happen. Why should I entertain your arguments beyond just reading them, when I (and countless other believers here at Worthy) know the Truth? Of course you can never convince me! My mind is closed to entertaining sin. That's a good thing! That is the wonderful thing about knowing the Living God--He renews our minds! We learn to think like God, taking on the mind of Christ daily. It changes us totally, as we become more and more like Jesus, and more and more righteous in our behaviours! What a life! He calls us to excellence, drawing us from our knees in the gutters of life to His Life of peace, joy and true love. Who wouldn't want that??????????

Christians walk a narrow path, not a broad path. We are called to it.

Then, Axe, until you are willing to listen, or until you are able to show me specific facts backing up the interpretation of your sect of Christianity on the Bible's passages pertaining to homosexuality in order to change my opinion, I am going to begin ignoring you again.

Nothing personal, you simply contribute nothing towards the goal of meaningful discussion and debate.

1 Cor. 6:9&10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Tim. 1:10 " and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching"

One question:

Why do you always "Ignore" those that refuse to accept what you think when we KNOW it is contrary to the word of God?

Go ahead and ignore me as well if you wish.

What is the greek and aramaic word that is translated as "homosexual"?

When I get home from work I will be able to answer this.

[secondeve]

"αρσενοκοιταις noun - dative plural masculine

arsenokoites ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace

a sodomite -- abuser of (that defile) self with mankind."

A Ganymede, by any other name.

[undone]

I can't wait for Jesus to come and set up His theocracy! It's who's in charge that matters.

Just imagine, the King of kings and Lord of lords sitting on the throne of David. Yeah baby!

COME LORD JESUS!

[Apoptosis]

I can't wait for Jesus to come and set up His theocracy! It's who's in charge that matters.

Just imagine, the King of kings and Lord of lords sitting on the throne of David. Yeah baby!

COME LORD JESUS!

Don't hold your breath.

[Floatingaxe]

I can't wait for Jesus to come and set up His theocracy! It's who's in charge that matters.

Just imagine, the King of kings and Lord of lords sitting on the throne of David. Yeah baby!

COME LORD JESUS!

Don't hold your breath.

At least we will still have breath--forever! That day is coming soon...Hallelujah!