A passage that seems unconscionable.

[stevehut]

Forrest, it's very simple:

God is sovereign, and he can do as he pleases.

Steve

[Adarian]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

[firehill]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

That would depend on what you consider or view as hateful, dislikeable, and untrustworthy treatement of women. You are not a christian woman. Have you experienced the archenemy's enmity??? Who can argue that ANY race, culture, country is excluded from revealing the enmity between Satan, the prince of this world and women? (Genesis 3) I know where you were coming from...

[ayin jade]

Well, I will tell you guys how I take the passage, and you guys can tell me what you think of this perspective. Most theologians, and almost all Jews, believe that the Pentateuch was handed down through the generations mostly orally until approximately 500 BC when it was actually recorded by Hebrew scribes.

If that were the case, then the passage would be more of a historical tradition than a literal dictation and thus would more reflect the moral beliefs of early Hebrews, than the moral beliefs of God.

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

17 that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly furnished to every good work.

The bible is His word.

[Floatingaxe]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

The Talmud is extremely mysogynistic.

[firehill]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

...That would depend on what you consider or view as hateful, dislikeable, and untrustworthy treatement of women. You are not a christian woman. Have you experienced the archenemy's enmity??? Who can argue that ANY race, culture, country is excluded from revealing the enmity between Satan, the prince of this world and women? (Genesis 3) I know where you were coming from...

Some may be spooked about the Truth...

Hey there FA!

[Floatingaxe]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

...That would depend on what you consider or view as hateful, dislikeable, and untrustworthy treatement of women. You are not a christian woman. Have you experienced the archenemy's enmity??? Who can argue that ANY race, culture, country is excluded from revealing the enmity between Satan, the prince of this world and women? (Genesis 3) I know where you were coming from...

Some may be spooked about the Truth...

Hey there FA!

Howdy old friend!

[firehill]

Well, I will tell you guys how I take the passage, and you guys can tell me what you think of this perspective. Most theologians, and almost all Jews, believe that the Pentateuch was handed down through the generations mostly orally until approximately 500 BC when it was actually recorded by Hebrew scribes.

If that were the case, then the passage would be more of a historical tradition than a literal dictation and thus would more reflect the moral beliefs of early Hebrews, than the moral beliefs of God.

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

17 that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly furnished to every good work.

The bible is His word.

Scripture is also the inspired record of fallen man.

[firehill]

Misogyny is hatred against women. Neither God nor Israel has ever been misogynistic.

Note that even today every man woman and child who is not found in Christ is under the law, and under the wrath of God, and under a sentence of death.

Man is appointed once to die, and after that the judgement. Every death is appointed.

...That would depend on what you consider or view as hateful, dislikeable, and untrustworthy treatement of women. You are not a christian woman. Have you experienced the archenemy's enmity??? Who can argue that ANY race, culture, country is excluded from revealing the enmity between Satan, the prince of this world and women? (Genesis 3) I know where you were coming from...

Some may be spooked about the Truth...

Hey there FA!

Howdy old friend!

[Tubal-Cain]

Hello forrestkc, I will try to provide a more full answer to your inquiry later. For now I want to point out the errors in two ways of addressing this problem.

First, those who say that this conduct was morally permissible because it was common in OT times are appealing to moral relativism. It is hypocritical for a Christian to denounce moral relativism in modern times while employing it himself when it's convenient. Such moral relativism could conceivably justify anything. You might as well say there is no such thing as morality if this is the best you can come up with.

Second, others say that God can do whatever he wants. However, this ignores the fact that the ability to do something does not make an action morally correct. For example, Hitler had the power to kill Jews but that did not make his actions right. One has to do better in defending God's actions in Numbers 31. There must be a moral standard external to God which God's goodness can be judged against, otherwise you're just using circular logic.