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Once again you seem to be separating God. Jesus is part of God systemstrike when He reveals Himself.

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I know. But what about God's word? What about the bible. Don't believers have to confess that Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose up again? All to take away our sins? If they don't have a bible, how can they know about this?


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the point they make is you can be whatever you want but unless God draws you you wont become a christian(please note that this is the same in christian churches lots of people just play church nowadays)

Yes, yes of course. But how can you be drawn by God without even having a notion of Him? And what about the issue concerning the lack of a bible? What is ya'lls view concerning this issue?

I think you have to have some knowledge of the bible to ask jesus for forgivness.

If someone comes up and say "hey say "jesus forgive me for my sin" " and you say it it does not mean you are saved you have to have the knowledge to know about the commitment

Ok well this brings us back to square one. If they don't have access to a bible, is there another path? Paul says so, but Jesus doesn't.(I'm not stating fact, just want to put this in an objective manner).


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How did Rahab know of and believe in the God of Israel? :24:

systemstrike you seem to be limiting God. :24: If He can create something from nothing surely He can speak His truth to each of His creation's heart as was stated in the Bible reference you were given earlier in this post :24: .

When the disciples asked " how then can we be saved" Jesus answered, "What is not possible for man is possible for God".

Could it be possible that you are trying to understand this with a human view, and by human means?

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How did Rahab know of and believe in the God of Israel? :24:

systemstrike you seem to be limiting God. :24: If He can create something from nothing surely He can speak His truth to each of His creation's heart as was stated in the Bible reference you were given earlier in this post :24: .

When the disciples asked " how then can we be saved" Jesus answered, "What is not possible for man is possible for God".

Could it be possible that you are trying to understand this with a human view, and by human means?

love your sister in Christ,

Rebekah David

Rahab lived during a time where God revealed himself in miraculous ways and it was before Christ came to earth. I am not trying to limit God. I truly believe that He does save those who have never heard Christs name, but live as Christ would want them to live. Like Paul said, I believe He will judge them by their hearts. But I guess I am now asking if it is necessary to here the message of Christ to be saved. Do you have to read about Christ dying on the cross for our sins and rising from the grave to be saved?


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God is God and the knowledge of the Messiah was placed in the people's heart long before He "dwelt" in human form among us. Much of this is recorded throughout the OT including Psalms.

God is still the same God and can reveal that same promise today to people.

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remember God called Abraham out of His culture to reveal Himself :24:


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God is God and the knowledge of the Messiah was placed in the people's heart long before He "dwelt" in human form among us. Much of this is recorded throughout the OT including Psalms.

God is still the same God and can reveal that same promise today to people.

Love your sister in Christ,

Rebekah David

remember God called Abraham out of His culture to reveal Himself :24:

I completely agree with you.

With that said, is it necessary to proclaim that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the tomb to later show himself to 500+ people? Must you do this, even in one's heart, to become saved?


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systemstriker once again i do not think you understand- were not the revelations of God (Jesus included) recorded in the OT? Very specifically His salvation plan even on a cross before they were invented? Throughout the OT especially in the Palms and Isaiah. If He can reveal this hundreds of years before it occurred He can still reveal it now :24: .

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systemstriker once again i do not think you understand- were not the revelations of God (Jesus included) recorded in the OT? Very specifically His salvation plan even on a cross before they were invented? Throughout the OT especially in the Palms and Isaiah. If He can reveal this hundreds of years before it occurred He can still reveal it now :24: .

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Ok, ok I think I see what you are saying now. So basically, God can still reveal these things to even the "tribesmen".

But, the in the OT, the people's salvation was not dependant upon knowledge of Jesus' ultimate sacrifice. Jesus had yet to make this ultimate sacrifice.


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Actually yes their belief was in God (Jesus is included in that statement) once again you are separating God :24: and forgetting those clear pictures of Him and His sacrifice before the events.

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Actually yes their belief was in God (Jesus is included in that statement) once again you are separating God :24: and forgetting those clear pictures of Him and His sacrifice before the events.

love your sister in Christ,

Rebekah David

But Jesus' sacrifice was done in a specific point in time, even considering that Jesus and God are one.(and yes they are). Old covenant, new covenant. These two things were seperated by Jesus' sacrifice. Do you see what I am saying?

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