Ephesians 2:8-10

[Guest shadow2b]

-We are created unto good works...We continue because we are saved

We don't continue to get saved.

Salvation is the horse....good works are the cart that follows.

-BY GEORGE I THINK YOU GOT IT BRO.......

-VERY WELL STATED---PLAIN---SIMPLE--FACTUAL-- THANK YOU

[Hvnly1Rose]

Hello all, new to the boards and comming in really late on this topic, a very HOT topic at that.

I certainly agree that we can give up our salvation and I am not totally sure we can lose it but there is scripture that comes to mind in Revelation in chapter 3:14-22, where the Lord is talking to the Laodicean church:

"The Lukewarm Church

14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans[6] write,

"These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:

15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.

16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,[7] I will vomit you out of My mouth.

17 Because you say, "I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'--and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked--

18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.

21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

22 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.""

It sounds to me as though the Lord really does require us to do good works....His works....being zealous in those works and, knowing that we are going to sin, to repent always, even though Christ died for all sins past, present and future we still need to acknowlege them so we can be clean vesels for Gods work. If we just rely only on our faith and not do what He calls on us to do then we are worthless to His cause....He paid a price for us and expects us to do something. Even though His love for us is unconditional it is true that we are required to be obedient children. David sinned Greatly but repented continually. He was always Hot for the things of the Lord, never lukewarm. King Saul on the other hand knew the things of the Lord and chose to be disobedient and suffered greatly because of it. God does what is necessary to accomplish His plan, and chastes those that He loves. As we come closer to the time of His return our hearts are getting colder to the Lord and His works.

I don't know about you but I don't think I want to be vomited out of His mouth. That can't be good...even though that doesn't say we lose our salvation...it speaks volumes as to what is required of us as believers.

God's blessings and revelations on all.

[His son]

And of course those who got vomited out had to be in there. like those whose names were blotted out of the book of life had to have had them entered into the book, but of course this is too simple for some to understand, because a lot of us can not accept the fact that there are things that we will not understand until we get there.

[CWJ]

Because they are lukewarm...they will not answer His call to repentance ..which is the requirement for re-birth. They are NOT depending on the Lord Jesus, but feel they need nothing.

They "go to church", but are not the church. Lost to repentance.

In order to have "white garments" one must be born of God.

Obviously the Laodiceans are un-saved.

Vomitting out of His mouth is obviously a figurative of His disgust with such behaviour and unrepentance.

If you study about the book of life you will see that every person is written in, don't get saved, then blotted out.

[His son]

Continuing is a fruit of being re-born...the state of being resulting from receiving the GIFT OF GOD, not of works lest any man should boast.

We are created unto good works...We continue because we are saved

We don't continue to get saved.

Salvation is the horse....good works are the cart that follows.

All of you who have been lulled into a false sense of security go back, and take out all the additions from your posts in regards to what The scriptures say, and your argument is nothing but private interpretation. Your attempt in this post is pretty sad. Works are the evidence of faith, hope, trust, obedience, righteousness, regeneration, restoration, rehabilitation, and love.

[Guest shadow2b]

-QUOTE (CWJ @ Jan 2 2004, 07:56 AM)

Continuing is a fruit of being re-born...the state of being resulting from receiving the GIFT OF GOD, not of works lest any man should boast.

We are created unto good works...We continue because we are saved

We don't continue to get saved.

Salvation is the horse....good works are the cart that follows.

All of you who have been lulled into a false sense of security go back, and take out all the additions from your posts in regards to what The scriptures say, and your argument is nothing but private interpretation. Your attempt in this post is pretty sad. Works are the evidence of faith, hope, trust, obedience, righteousness, regeneration, restoration, rehabilitation, and love.

aahhhhhhh,that felt soooooo good--