Steward George Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,773 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,463 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted January 7, 2003 Hello all, As the editor of Worthy News I often read many stories which I find unbelieveable and oftentimes have to pray for a day or two to decide whether or not to publish the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest astralis Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I thought marijuana was indigenous to the Americas? I guess there are other uses and the article suggests that the Jews used cannibis. I would really need much more information about this but medicines are derived from nature in some form and the article doesn't state that anyone was getting high - and if they did it didn't suggest that it was used to get high. I have a feeling the euphoric properties of American cannibis didn't exist with the same potency as cannibis in the Old World. I'll have to research this though. We've been using cannibis for centuries in textiles - if it existed in Judaica back then why wouldn't they use the plant? I think the writer in High Times is hoping, though,that it gives him a reason to abuse cannibis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munari Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 444 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/08/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were "literally drenched in this potent mixture... Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin". OH!!!! So THAT'S why Jesus rose from the dead!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2003 Hey George, You are reading funny stories, of course Jesus didn't use pot, the Bible is very much against the use of drugs or mind altering substancis, there are lots of warnings in the OT. No doubt about it, Jesus did not use them (at least my opinion) God Bless,Angels :thumb: I wouldn't be suprised if they use cannibis in the Satanic church! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munari Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 444 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/08/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 Fragrant Cane in Exodus 30:23 Question Dear Rabbi, What is the fragrant cane (qaneh besem, kaneh bosm, kineboisin, etc) mentioned in Exodus 30:23? I understand that calamus was a mistranslation. Is it the lemon grass that I've been reading about or is it cannabis? Finally, were there prohibitionist laws against cannabis in Jerusalem during the time of Jesus? Respectfully, Gene Answer Dear Gene, Yehudah Felix has written three books in Hebrew that relate to your questions: Biblical Vegetation published in 1957, Nature in the Biblical land, published in 1992, and Spice, Forest and Ornament Plants, published in 1997. "Kinamon" or "kinman bosem" is definitely cinnamon. It was originally used for perfume and incense and only began to be used as a spice in the Middle Ages. The tree it comes from is the cinnamonum zeylanium, which can be found in India or China. Felix, in Biblical Vegetation, writes that the Biblical kind was from China. In Spice, Forest and Ornament Plants, he says it's the Indian kind. In any case it is cinnamon. Kneh Bosem is an expensive fragrance imported from far away lands. It's apparently a tropical kind of plant. In Nature in the Biblical land, Felix writes that Kneh Bosem might come from East Africa. Other possibilities are: 1) Cymbopogon Schoenanthus, found near the Sea of Galilee; 2) Cymbopogon Martini, found in India; 3) Kalamos eodes, found near the Sea of Galilee; 4) Acorus calamus, but the reeds are not hollow as a kaneh should be; 5) Andropogon nardus, a fragant reed from India. In all my research, I found no reference whatsoever to cannabis, and I don't know whether it existed in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus and whether there were prohibitionist laws. Sincerely, Rabbi Diana Villa diantami@netvision.net.il from: http://www.schechter.edu/askrabbi/fragrantcane.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2003 What are your thoughts on this article? Well George, I'm gonna be real honest since you asked. Frankly I'm a little surprised that you're even posing this for debate, as if it "were debatable"? This seemingly to me, is just another ploy (not by you of course, but by the writer) to put an "OK" stamp on mind altering drugs, and in doing so, condoning the use of them. Seems to wreak of falseness IMO. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2003 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention....yod, I'm with you on the mental picture. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadow2b Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 What are your thoughts on this article? Well George, I'm gonna be real honest since you asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 827 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 12,101 Content Per Day: 1.50 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2003 Absolutely not! God's Word is very anti sorcery. We know that sort of thing existed, just look at Simon the sorcerer. Jesus, the GREAT I AM, who created everything - did not need assistance from any plant to work his miracles! How did pot help raise Lazarus from the 3 day dead? How did pot help a man that was blind from birth to see? Or stop an issue of blood from a woman? Or heal leprosy? Or help a cripple man walk? Or help Jesus to walk on water? Or calm the sea? Or help Jesus to raise from the dead and ascend to heaven? Or to continue to change the hearts and lives of followers TO THIS DAY? HOGWASH! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted January 7, 2003 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,773 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,463 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted January 7, 2003 Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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