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The NIV is pretty much the most accurate of all translations.

I disgaree floating but then again bible translations don't save you, Jesus does. Another great website for anything Christ related is CARN Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry www.carm.org they have helped me combat in chat because all of their articles are simple format and easliy click and paste. Gospel is sound and uses different translations but mostly NKJV which I like best. Know the Word!

But if you're going to bring Jesus to people and use the bible as the perfect word of god then this is something that's worth sorting out. And it's also what the purpose of this thread is.

Question: What is the message of the Gospel?

Need you to be more specific.

Which Gospel?:

There's only one Gospel.

What is the message of the Gospel?

No, there's a dumptruck of gospels: Could be a book of shadows, a Koran, a Bhuddist Sutra, a Torah, a New Age psudospirtual text, cuniform tablets, or even... A Christian bible. Though each one of these examples has at least 5 versions if not thousands. So since youwon't choose I will pick one... Bucklands guide to Witchcraft. The message there is to explore the spiritual and natural world, show both reverence, and primarialy to do what you like as long as you don't hurt anybody.

There is only ONE Gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ. Those things that you are suggesting to be gospels are stories and imaginings of depraved and deluded minds.

Your so-called gospel is an abomination to the Creator, because you choose to worship the created instead of the Creator! He hates that. It is called idolatry. Even nature in all its splendour gives its glory to God.

Isaiah 55:12

You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.

You hit it right on the head. The word Gospel means 'good news'. The Buddhist/Quaran/Whatever aren't really 'good news' at all. They're pretty much bad

news, if anything.

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JOBAfunky:

I'd like to address your comments on the Bible versus other religious 'literary works'

The other literary works were written by just one person in one period of history during their own lifetime and carried on from there.

The Bible was written by MANY people, from the earliest point in history since humans have been able to read and write. Therefore Judaism is the world's oldest religion that is still being practised. (And Christianity accepts the same written works as Judaism as you probably know)

Again, the writers of the Bible were many and span a few thousand years.

Many of the writers of the Bible were prophets. The Bible is 1/4 prophesy as a matter of fact, and the prophesies spoken of throughout the history of mankind have all come to pass with 100 percent accuracy. No other 'literary work' or 'holy book' has even dared to fortell future events.

SecondEve posed a good question as to whether or not humans could have written the Bible on their own. For the sake of my own laziness, I'll copy and paste an answer from that other thread.

Could humans have come up with the ideas in the Bible? I suppose they could have come up with some of those ideas. But could humans have orchestrated all of the events throughout the entire history of the Bible? In order to answer the question, you have to look at the whole book beginning to end.

The first writings started thousands of years BC to about 2 thousand years ago. Because of the fact that there is so much archaeological proof to support the Biblical stories, we know that some of these stories occurred. In support of your argument, okay then, the writers did write about true events but always, for thousands of years, the many writers always involved a God that didn't actually exist. Is this possible? I guess but you have to ask why they would continue into the generations the writings if the God never did exist at all. Why give Him so much credit? Look at Sodom and Gomorrah and unexplained sulpher balls and a ruined city in the exact vicinity where the city once stood, it's hard to reconcile that particular story to being merely of human origins.

There are over 500 peices of Biblical archaeology that support the writings. And to date, no archaeology has proven it wrong.

So, the writers were writing about events that surrounding their time period and attributing a lot of it to the same non existant God. But why?

And why is the Bible the only book that does chronical the histories of humans and their early to late relationships with this one God? Why didn't the other religions do so?

What about the prophesies. The Bible is 1/4 prophesy and 100 percent accurate so far. Just looking at the prophesies of Jesus alone, is this something that can be done on a purely human level? Well, certainly prophesies can be written or copied but can they come to pass with 100 percent accuracy? No.

So while the Biblical writers, many of whom didn't know each other, spoke of the same God who loved them and wanted them to come to know Him. What kind of conspiracy theory is this? Especially knowing the prophesies concerning the Messiah wouldn't come until a thousand years later? How could humans orchestrate such a catastrophic lie spanning thousands of years and include prophesies?

It wasn't like it was the governments had made up this God to control the people. While some of the writers were royalty, another is just a farmer. And if you think that the leaders of nations wanted to make up this God to control the peoples, take a look at the writings of King David and you'll meet a very humble man who cries out to God for help and thanks him for protection against his enemies. So it's not about that either.

So, in answer to your question on whether or not humans could have come up with the ideas? Yes. Could they have orchestrated them over thousands of years and made prophesies to come to pass? No. Could the writers have known about the medical facts thousands of years before the medical communities would accept them without any knowledge from God? Not likely.

If you believe it was written purely by humans, the questions just seem to get bigger and more unanswerable.


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That was an amazing post, AL :39:


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Thank you Yomo. :emot-hug:

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