other one Posted March 3, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,262 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,990 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2012 He was King of Salem........ so that brings the question of who was living in Salem during that time period Who were his subjects...... a king has to have subjects.... who was living in Salem when he was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted March 3, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2012 He was King of Salem........ so that brings the question of who was living in Salem during that time period Who were his subjects...... a king has to have subjects.... who was living in Salem when he was there? other one is talking about what is to be Jerusalem. Jeru-salem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted March 3, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2012 Well we almost agree OneLight. I tend to consider that He ( ) either has no parents, or his parents were without note and that's why they weren't mentioned. I do believe it is pre-incarnate Christ, though I don't think scripture proves it enough for us to say "thus sayeth the Lord". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botz Posted March 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,492 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 18 Joined: 03/29/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2012 Melchizedek was King of Salem...or the town that became the residence of the Jebusites and then became Jerusalem. We know zilch about him apart from what has been recorded, neither where he was from or what happened to him or any family history like the river Jordan he appears with out beginning and without end...a type of our Great High-Priest. The Jewish Rabbis are a wise and learned bunch...but they also accomodate some far-out teachings...and the idea that Seth is Melchizedek does not fit in with Scripture as we know his lineage, therefore the Rabbis conclusion has to submit to the greater wisdom and facts of Scripture. Interesting to see that Melchizedek means 'King of righteousness in Hebrew'...later when Joshua was under the unction of G-d to take the land of Canaan...the resident king of Jerusalem all these years later was called Adoni-zedek which means 'My lord of righteousness...he had a rather miserable ending...(see Joshua 10) It leads me to speculate that originally the city was indeed led by a person or persons that loved G-d and knew of His great power (the flood)...but eventually they too became corrupt and contaminated by the curse of Canaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted March 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2012 Quoting you: Though there arent many passages in the Old Testament concerning him, but he has been compared to none other than Jesus Christ! Gen 14:18 mentions about him being the 'king of Salem' , and 'the priest of the most high'.... What do we know of this person, and why do we know so little about him? Dear Metropolitan, I offer these comments, and a quote from a study that I hope that helps clear up some questions on Melchisedec's life and ministry. May God bless you as you study His word in Jesus' name - larry2 - Jesus was not Melchisedec, His priesthood was after the order of Melchisedec; in other words it was the same type of priesthood. That priesthood of Melchisedec didn't have a beginning of days; there is no record of his birth or death, and no family history was needed such as with the Aaronic priesthood requiring they be a Levite. There was no ending of days for Melchisedec's priesthood such as the 20 year duration of the Aaronic priesthood. Melechisedec was a king, and Jesus is a king; the earthly kingdom of Jerusalem was not the heavenly Jerusalem. Hebrews 7:3 says Melchisedec was "made like unto the Son of God;" abideth a priest continually. Why would Melchisedec have to be made like unto the Son of God if He was the Son of God? We also are changed from glory to glory into the image of Christ, and our lives like unto the Son of God has no end. Below is an additional response about Melchisedec by my pastor Jesse O'Dorisio at "livingwaterstabernacle.com" as a topical link to this material. I hope this is a blessing in your further understanding of the word of God. Quoting my pastor: Jesus was not just the son of man; He is the Son of God, halleluiah. He is without sin, He is from the order of Melchisedec, His ordination was not of man but an oath from God, and His title and office are forever. Hebrews 5:3. "And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins." I want to make this third verse very clear that it is speaking of Aaron here offering the sacrifice for the people, and obviously, Aaron had to offer the sacrifice for himself and his own sins because he was merely the priest at that time. He was not I AM, the complete, or it is finished priest, and He was not the fullness of Melchisedec in being a priest-king. Here again we see the weakness of the Levitical priesthood magnifying the need of our superior high priest Jesus Chris Melchizedek was a type of Christ because he was a priest king, but Christ is our great priest king. Turn to Genesis 14:18. "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God." Now if you have a Scofield Bible, there is a wonderful note and I am going to read this for you that he references here. It says and I quote, "Melchizedek, a type of Christ the King-Priest. The type strictly applies to the priestly work of Christ in resurrection, since Melchizedek presents only the memorials of sacrifice, bread and wine. After the order of Melchizedek refers to the royal authority and unending duration of Christ's high priesthood. The Aaronic priesthood was often interrupted by death. Christ is a priest after the order of Melchizedek, as King of righteousness, King of peace, and in the endlessness of His priesthood; but the Aaronic priesthood typifies His priestly work." Praise God. Now, where Scofield said and I love this, that the "Aaronic priesthood was often interrupted by death;" you get that there, right? You know, whether it was Aaron, Samuel or whoever the high priest was, they died, though they really did not die, they just fell asleep in Christ. It is as Jesus said; you guys do not understand this, but Lazarus is dead. All those priests died and their priesthood ended, but Christ has an unending priesthood. Hebrew 7:1-3. "For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually." These first three verses obviously compare Jesus with Melchisedec, and let us turn again to Genesis 14:18-20 to introduce this great Melchisedec. "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all." Melchisedec was so great he blessed Abraham, and Abraham acknowledged him as God's anointed priest and king. He was a priest-king, his name means, "the king is righteous," he is a descendent of Shem, he was king of Salem, and Salem is the oldest name of what we now call Jerusalem. Melchisedec's priesthood was for all the people including the Gentiles, whereas Aaron's priesthood was just for Israel. Melchisedec's priesthood was not limited to twenty years as Aaron's, but was continual not having a beginning of days, or ceasing due to an end of his life, and that priesthood was like Jesus: the same yesterday, today, and forever. His priesthood had no predecessors or successors, and was superior to Aaron's in every way because even death could limit Aaron's priesthood and passed from father to son. Aaron was of the priestly tribe of Levi and paid tithes in Abraham who then gave a tenth of the spoils to Melchisedec. These are points about our wonderful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, this is Paul convincing his kinsmen of the superiority, and the better that is found in Christ. So many answers in so little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alleluia707 Posted March 6, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/01/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2012 Melchisedec's priesthood was for all the people including the Gentiles, whereas Aaron's priesthood was just for Israel. Melchisedec's priesthood was not limited to twenty years as Aaron's, but was continual not having a beginning of days, or ceasing due to an end of his life, and that priesthood was like Jesus: the same yesterday, today, and forever. His priesthood had no predecessors or successors, and was superior to Aaron's in every way because even death could limit Aaron's priesthood and passed from father to son. Aaron was of the priestly tribe of Levi and paid tithes in Abraham who then gave a tenth of the spoils to Melchisedec. These are points about our wonderful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, this is Paul convincing his kinsmen of the superiority, and the better that is found in Christ. Amen, your pastor explained this wonderfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botz Posted March 6, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,492 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 18 Joined: 03/29/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 6, 2012 Also....just in case any fans of Joseph Smith are looking in...one of the aspects of the the Melchizedek priesthood is that it can NEVER be held by anyone else but Jesus : 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood 15 And it is yet far more evident for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest 16 Who is made not after the law of a carnal commandment but after the power of an endless life 17 For he testifieth Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof 19 For the law made nothing perfect but the bringing in of a better hope did by the which we draw nigh unto God 20 And inasmuch as __ not without an oath he was made priest 21 For those priests were __ made without an oath but this with an oath by him that said unto him The Lord sware and will not repent Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament 23 And they truly were __ many priests because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death 24 But this man because he continueth ever __ hath an unchangeable priesthood 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them The Greek word for 'UNCHANGEABLE' in verse 24 also means 'NON-TRANSFERABLE', and if the passage is read in context with the whole emphasis on the contrast between the Aaronic priesthood and the Melchizedek priesthood it will become evident that NO ONE can ever hold the Melchizedek priesthood except Jesus, because He lives forever, and holds it forever...unlike the Aaronic priests who were mortal, and died with another taking their place. This is so important for a Mormon to grasp, and can be an initiator in helping them see the snare of the teachings to which they have submitted themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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