Just out of curiousity...

[tdrehfal]

What would be acceptable evidence of God to the atheist/agnostics posting here? I'm curious as to what you would find an acceptable 'proof beyond

a reasonable doubt' as to God's existence?

[Leonard]

Once, years back I was talking with a little clique of about 3 young atheist men, both about the existence of God, and the Theory of Evolution. They affirmed that they believed in the Theory of Evolution had been 'proved.' and disbelieved in God, because His existence had not been 'proved.'

I questioned them thoroughly about just how much actual study they had in the area of comparative anatomy, and physical anthropology and each had much less than did I. I then stated that evolution had certainly NOT been proved to me, and asked "proved to whose satisfaction?"

Falling into my trap, they said: "Proved to the satisfaction of experts in the field."

To which I responded: "That is a good, intellectually honest standard on which to rely. Now then, let's ask Theologians about the existence of God.........."

Suddenly, that was not such a good standard any more!

Men do not reject Christ on intellectual grounds, but on moral grounds.

[systemstrike_7]

First of all, I don't think the bible can be reconciled. But this doesn't leave out the possibility of a supernatural being. Is there one? Who knows, we may never, but we can certainly look for one. I don't think I would ever be able to come back to Christianity, mainly for personal reasons. But, if you want to know how much evidence would be needed for me to believe in Christianity, well I hate to say this, but lets see Armaggedon. Then I will believe.

[Floatingaxe]

First of all, I don't think the bible can be reconciled. But this doesn't leave out the possibility of a supernatural being. Is there one? Who knows, we may never, but we can certainly look for one. I don't think I would ever be able to come back to Christianity, mainly for personal reasons. But, if you want to know how much evidence would be needed for me to believe in Christianity, well I hate to say this, but lets see Armaggedon. Then I will believe.

Too late then. Most people will never live to see it.

[systemstrike_7]

First of all, I don't think the bible can be reconciled. But this doesn't leave out the possibility of a supernatural being. Is there one? Who knows, we may never, but we can certainly look for one. I don't think I would ever be able to come back to Christianity, mainly for personal reasons. But, if you want to know how much evidence would be needed for me to believe in Christianity, well I hate to say this, but lets see Armaggedon. Then I will believe.

Too late then. Most people will never live to see it.

Well, apparently you're right. It's a good thing I don't believe in it.

[tdrehfal]

First of all, I don't think the bible can be reconciled. But this doesn't leave out the possibility of a supernatural being. Is there one? Who knows, we may never, but we can certainly look for one. I don't think I would ever be able to come back to Christianity, mainly for personal reasons. But, if you want to know how much evidence would be needed for me to believe in Christianity, well I hate to say this, but lets see Armaggedon. Then I will believe.

Too late then. Most people will never live to see it.

Well, apparently you're right. It's a good thing I don't believe in it.

Please remember that your personal beliefs do not change anything about what is going to happen. I don't believe in Jesus because it's a personal belief, I believe in Him because it's the truth. Even if you totally discard my statements about Christ, you are still left with the fact that your beliefs are not going

to shape the future. "It's a good thing I dont believe in it" is like saying it's a good thing I don't believe in the national debt. It exists wether you believe

or not.

Edited February 6, 2007 by tdrehfal

[systemstrike_7]

Yes, well I have been scared into Christianity before. But this time, it won't be so easy. I refuse to live my life in fear. There is no love in fear.

[systemstrike_7]

I understand that, I'm not an idiot. I was merely kidding. But, you believe that it is the truth, while I don't, so there is no need for me to worry.

[tdrehfal]

I will take a lack of reply to this post as meaning that NO evidence will EVER be good enough to convince the atheist/agnostic that God exists.

So what atheists and agnostics are really saying then, is essentially that they don't care what evidence could be provided, they will simply willfully refuse to believe in God, period.

[systemstrike_7]

I will take a lack of reply to this post as meaning that NO evidence will EVER be good enough to convince the atheist/agnostic that God exists.

So what atheists and agnostics are really saying then, is essentially that they don't care what evidence could be provided, they will simply willfully refuse to believe in God, period.

That is just ridiculous. Some of us gave replies, but yet again Christians decide to ignore the obvious and say that NO evidence will EVER be good enough. Get over yourself. You act like we are purposely spitting in God's face or something. We have good reason not to believe! We don't hate God!!!