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Other than that, I really want to know how he decided that the Holy Spirit is a magnetic field, and that light is an electric field.

Sorry, I thought that my previous post was a clear-enough warning.

He decided that because it sounds scientific, and he is relying upon gullible people to believe his pseudo-scientific babble.

Remember the quote about the bigger the lie, the more likely it is to be believed?

I can spot a snake-oil salesman from a hundred yards, and that's what our friend is. Read the rhetoric on his web site. He's promising just too much to be true. In my world, if it sounds too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.

You've been had, as have 13,000 other poor suckers, who have made our friend rich in a short time.

Just look at the title of the free book he offers with his own. (It's freely available as a download, if you google it).

Dave- I'm an atheist. I just tend to keep my tongue more firmly in my cheek than most. :cool:


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This experiment proves nothing other than the lengths people will go to try to justify their unjustifiable beliefs.

I guess that accusation could cut both ways

I was thinkin' that very thing! :emot-handshake:


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"Let there be Light"

Was God referring to the entire electromagnetic spectrum, or just the very small band of it that can be detected by the human eye?


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"Let there be Light"

Was God referring to the entire electromagnetic spectrum, or just the very small band of it that can be detected by the human eye?

Most likely to the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The reason is that the sun and stars are created later in the passage (obviously I'm not taking it as a literal interpretation, just that it shows a basic order of Creation, and that God did it all). In evolutionary science, and just basic science, it is impossible to have light (i.e. stars) without some form of atomic energy beneath it. Now, you will know more than I do on this because you have studied it more, so if I am wrong in my over simplification of how light works, please tell me.

However, as for translation purposes, "light" is better translated into "energy" and things of this nature.

Also, I should add that I'm quite skeptical of this paper. I have yet to read it, but thus far from people I do respect it hasn't received the best reviews.


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"Let there be Light"

Was God referring to the entire electromagnetic spectrum, or just the very small band of it that can be detected by the human eye?

Most likely to the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The reason is that the sun and stars are created later in the passage (obviously I'm not taking it as a literal interpretation, just that it shows a basic order of Creation, and that God did it all). In evolutionary science, and just basic science, it is impossible to have light (i.e. stars) without some form of atomic energy beneath it. Now, you will know more than I do on this because you have studied it more, so if I am wrong in my over simplification of how light works, please tell me.

However, as for translation purposes, "light" is better translated into "energy" and things of this nature.

Also, I should add that I'm quite skeptical of this paper. I have yet to read it, but thus far from people I do respect it hasn't received the best reviews.

I've only studied the properties of light as it pertains to chemistry, so I'm by no means an authority on the matter.

You are right about light being a form of energy, although it exhibits some properties of a particle as well. Generally speaking, when the electrons of an atom shift from a high-energy state to a low-energy state, the energy is released as light. It also works the other way around–light can be captured in an atom's outer shell and "stored" as energy in the electron's orbital.

Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed by conventional (non-nuclear) means, only converted from one form to another. Stars (and nukes, for that matter) are an exception to this rule–in nuclear reactions, the mass of an atom's nucleus is actually converted to energy according to Einstein's famous E=mc^2 equation. Therefore, stars and radioactive decay are the only natural processes that can create light itself-everything else basically releases energy that is already there.

What the guy's paper is basically saying is that because sound waves have been shown, under very specific conditions, to cause bubbles of fluid to release light, God literally speaking the words "Let there be Light" would have created light (i.e. electromagnetic energy) itself.

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"Let there be Light"

Was God referring to the entire electromagnetic spectrum, or just the very small band of it that can be detected by the human eye?

Most likely to the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The reason is that the sun and stars are created later in the passage (obviously I'm not taking it as a literal interpretation, just that it shows a basic order of Creation, and that God did it all). In evolutionary science, and just basic science, it is impossible to have light (i.e. stars) without some form of atomic energy beneath it. Now, you will know more than I do on this because you have studied it more, so if I am wrong in my over simplification of how light works, please tell me.

However, as for translation purposes, "light" is better translated into "energy" and things of this nature.

Also, I should add that I'm quite skeptical of this paper. I have yet to read it, but thus far from people I do respect it hasn't received the best reviews.

I've only studied the properties of light as it pertains to chemistry, so I'm by no means an authority on the matter.

You are right about light being a form of energy, although it exhibits some properties of a particle as well. Generally speaking, when the electrons of an atom shift from a high-energy state to a low-energy state, the energy is released as light. It also works the other way around


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Thanks for posting this; I love this kind of stuff. :whistling:

I should point out that the bubbles will only produce light as long as they are exposed to sound. So if the sound stops, the light stops. In order for God to create lasting light, in the form of stars like we have today, the sonoluminescence proposed in this article would simply not cut it. Sound can indeed create a flash of light; but (that we know of), it can't create billions of suns.

The article was entertaining but tragically presumptuous and sensational. There is a big difference between proving something to be possible and proving something to be actual. The student has showed sonoluminescence to be possible, but this is a far cry from proving Biblical creation, especially considering what I pointed out in my last paragraph. I'm sure the student can't be blamed entirely for this; obviously we can expect WorldNetDaily and other media outlets to sensationalize such stories. (I can't even count the number of times the media has incorrectly declared that scientists have created life when they only created something like a simple self-replicating enzyme.)

Oh well. It's good to see something at least partially scientific come from creationists. And this is interesting stuff. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I agree with you Runners, It is somthing thats somewhat possible, and it does make a good theory, it can be verified or falsified, though I'm not sure how off he is or not. I'll have to pray about it.


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Just spreading some sonoluminescence in hopes that you could hear what I hear.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

It's life changing my friend and offers a Hope and Peace that surpasseth all that you think you understand.

Amen!!! :whistling:

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