Death Certificates on Abortions Proposed

[Guest revelations14]

On most occasions women go through abortions because they want too, however there are extenuating circumstances I understand especially when a child is involved but this is a rare occurance, I think the death certificate is a good idea to remind people they are actually taking another life, the life of a child.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

how is the definition of "mother" important on this topic? I said "mother's privacy" to refer to the woman having an abortion, if it bothers you I'll say "woman who has an abortion's privacy" instead. It still doesn't change anything about what is being argued.

[Giaour]

Whoever thinks that teenage girls WANT to be pregnant is nuts. It's every girl's worst nightmare (and I'm only a few years out of high school myself). Girls who never had sex still got nervous thinking about it. I agree with the earlier assessment - if your friend gets pregnant you're obviously going to be kind and supportive, but it's not right to equate that to wanting pregnancy!

I never said seeing a teen pregnant makes the other teens WANT to be pregnant. I said there was no shame in it.

[Guest revelations14]

I had a miscarriage 5 years ago and a death certificate would have brought alot of closure to my ordeal.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Whoever thinks that teenage girls WANT to be pregnant is nuts. It's every girl's worst nightmare (and I'm only a few years out of high school myself). Girls who never had sex still got nervous thinking about it. I agree with the earlier assessment - if your friend gets pregnant you're obviously going to be kind and supportive, but it's not right to equate that to wanting pregnancy!

I never said seeing a teen pregnant makes the other teens WANT to be pregnant. I said there was no shame in it.

Well, a pregnant teen is going to try to appear confidant and sure of herself in public and high school, of course. But to assume they aren't ashamed is untrue.

[Guest shiloh357]

A viable baby....we should now start looking for any deformities at birth...and then kill these babies.

We should also make this retroactive, thus anyone who has a physical or mental handicap now, that was a birth defect, should also go through a "life removing procedure."

This is getting absurd. There is a difference between a handful of cells, and a new born baby with a deformity. I mean come on, do you have any kids?

Until your child can fend for himself and make his own way in the world he is completely dependent on you for his food, shelter, clothing, and everything necessary for human survival. He is just as dependent on you for life outside of the womb as he was in. The only difference is the manner in which those needs are provided.

To claim that a child is "potentially" human before birth is the most insensitive and humanistic thing I have heard you say. It is hard to believe that a person of your intelligence can be so gullible as to believe this cock-eyed liberal drivel.

[Giaour]

how is the definition of "mother" important on this topic? I said "mother's privacy" to refer to the woman having an abortion, if it bothers you I'll say "woman who has an abortion's privacy" instead. It still doesn't change anything about what is being argued.

I'm sorry if the word "mother" is just a technicality to you but it is important to show the difference between a woman and a mother.

Yes, but should a miscarriage, say one just at 6 weeks, get a death certificate?

I know several women who did. They also had funerals for them. They mourn too.

[georgesbluegirl]

Yes, but should a miscarriage, say one just at 6 weeks, get a death certificate?

I know several women who did. They also had funerals for them. They mourn too.

Well, I believe this is a significant exception rather than the rule. I know many women who have had miscarriages, and while there is certainly always sadness involved, nothing on the kind of level you're describing could be called commonplace. The fact is that the natural and social response to a miscarriage, especially an early miscarriage, is very different from that of having a newborn die. It makes sense from a biological perspective (as many things do...), since early miscarriages are quite on the usual side of things.

[Giaour]

Yes, but should a miscarriage, say one just at 6 weeks, get a death certificate?

I know several women who did. They also had funerals for them. They mourn too.

Well, I believe this is a significant exception rather than the rule. I know many women who have had miscarriages, and while there is certainly always sadness involved, nothing on the kind of level you're describing could be called commonplace. The fact is that the natural and social response to a miscarriage, especially an early miscarriage, is very different from that of having a newborn die. It makes sense from a biological perspective (as many things do...), since early miscarriages are quite on the usual side of things.

I dont think there is a difference between a still born and a miscarriage. The women face the same loss. These pregnant women think and believe that the "clump of cells" they are carrying is a "baby" already.

[georgesbluegirl]

My point is that most women don't feel that way, though. Again, from a biological perspective, it wouldn't make sense if they did.