Death Certificates on Abortions Proposed

[Guest LadyC]

first, what is up with those advertisements????

next, this has nothing to do with "branding women". i already pointed out how absurd the scarlet letter argument is.

it has everything to do with acknowledging the death of a human life.

furthermore, the point about a minor's name being blocked out was in regard to a minor parent who had the abortion in the first place, not in reference to the aborted child.

[apothanein kerdos]

No offense, but pretty much everyone I've ever known who's pro-choice will readily agree that getting an abortion is NOT the same thing as "removing a tumor." I think across the board everyone recognizes that it is a significant procedure, and it is true that everyone wants the abortion rates to go down. Not all who are pro-choice would have an abortion themselves.

What does that have to do with anything?

Pro-choice is pro-murder...that simple. Even if they've never got it done, they've encouraged people to have the right to kill their own children.

This is obviously an issue where intelligent and conscionable people disagree. However, I think that just the same, the vast, vast majority of people would agree that this Scarlet Letter Proposal, where women who have an abortion for any reason would be permanently branded and identified in the public record for it, is wrong.

Honestly, do you really think that the law that this Tennessee Rep is proposing is a good idea?

Yes, I do.

A murderer will always have it on his record - he always has to answer for it.

A child molester can never work, live, or be anywhere around children, until the day he dies.

A criminal of any sort will never be able to erase his record.

How, then, is this law unethical or wrong? It treats them like criminals.

[forrestkc]

My first post has been completely ignored. How is it wrong to acknowledge and validate that someone existed? Our first thought should not be whether it is cost-effective or un-American...it should be what is right. Did God create humans in His image or not? Is life precious or not?

That is the the problem. The death certificates would not validate that anyone ever existed. The embryo or fetus would have no name on the certificate. It would simply be publicly branding a woman who had an abortion for any reason.

[Kabowd]

I also love how people are willing to spend millions of dollars to murder a child, but unwilling to spend any money validating that a child lived and died. Wow.

[Kabowd]

My first post has been completely ignored. How is it wrong to acknowledge and validate that someone existed? Our first thought should not be whether it is cost-effective or un-American...it should be what is right. Did God create humans in His image or not? Is life precious or not?

That is the the problem. The death certificates would not validate that anyone ever existed. The embryo or fetus would have no name on the certificate. It would simply be publicly branding a woman who had an abortion for any reason.

It states that a HUMAN existed, the name is beside the point. God knows their name already. It's like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. It HONORED those that had fallen, in spite of the fact we did not know his name.

[forrestkc]

Yes, I do.

A murderer will always have it on his record - he always has to answer for it.

A child molester can never work, live, or be anywhere around children, until the day he dies.

A criminal of any sort will never be able to erase his record.

How, then, is this law unethical or wrong? It treats them like criminals.

Abortion is not a crime in America though. In our country, the majority of Americans do not believe that a handful of cells has the same rights or is morally the same as a new born baby. In fact, even theologically it is a very debatable issue.

[forrestkc]

It states that a HUMAN existed, the name is beside the point. God knows their name already. It's like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. It HONORED those that had fallen, in spite of the fact we did not know his name.

What many times is merely a handful of cells is comparable to a new born child?

[apothanein kerdos]

Yes, I do.

A murderer will always have it on his record - he always has to answer for it.

A child molester can never work, live, or be anywhere around children, until the day he dies.

A criminal of any sort will never be able to erase his record.

How, then, is this law unethical or wrong? It treats them like criminals.

Abortion is not a crime in America though. In our country, the majority of Americans do not believe that a handful of cells has the same rights or is morally the same as a new born baby. In fact, even theologically it is a very debatable issue.

Theologically it's not debatable at all unless you invalidate the core of the Bible (imago dei)...and if you do that, you lose the right to be called a Christian because you have removed the reason for sin, Christ, etc.

Likewise, it is still an immoral act, therefore, why shouldn't these women have to go through life being branded as killers? You're telling me that someone who kills their child two days before its born can get off scott free, but someone that kills their child two days later should be thrown in jail? Seriously?

[Kabowd]

Yes, I do.

A murderer will always have it on his record - he always has to answer for it.

A child molester can never work, live, or be anywhere around children, until the day he dies.

A criminal of any sort will never be able to erase his record.

How, then, is this law unethical or wrong? It treats them like criminals.

Abortion is not a crime in America though. In our country, the majority of Americans do not believe that a handful of cells has the same rights or is morally the same as a new born baby. In fact, even theologically it is a very debatable issue.

Do really want to appeal to the majority? Is this your argument? America may not say it's a crime, but God does. And no, anyone with any theological integrity will not agree that this is debatable. Only those who have adopted secularistic, humanistic philosophy would embrace the argument that these are just a "handful of cells".

[Guest LadyC]

forrest, do you believe that life begins at conception? because it sounds as though you don't.

if you don't, then tell me how you rectify that with what scripture says about the beginning of life?